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POLL: What to do about Florida Panthers goaltending "situation"

  

 

Cats forward Greg Campbell (far left) chooses his favorite Panthers netminder. No, not really.

 

Been quite a bit of talk recently surrounding the Cats' goaltending tandem of starter Tomas Vokoun and backup Craig Anderson. Perhaps not surprisingly.
 
Specifically, what to do with them? The Miami Herald and Sun-Sentinel have both commented this week on the possibility that one of the duo may not be in Sunrise next season. Could that someone be T-Vo?
 
Fans have been immunized to the idea of Andy testing the free agent waters; he's earned it, and word on the street says he wishes to be a club's number one. Can he withstand 65-70 nights per year? Doesn't matter at this stage. $omeone will give him that opportunity, and rightly so.
 
But what of 33 year-old Vokoun, Florida's so-called "money guy"? Wasn't he a lock to stay with the organization at least through the end of his contract.
 
 
 Contract Information for Tomas Vokoun
Cap Hit: $5.7 million. 2008-09: $5.5 million. 2009-10: $5.7 million. 2010-11: $6.3 million. 2011-12: UFA
That's big coin, but he's a gamer who can carry a club, minus a few stinkers from time to time. And considering the shots he's faced, his importance to the team is inestimable.
 
Anderson, on the other hand, is younger (29 in May), has proven his stamina and durability (for stretches), and will be far cheaper than T-Vo. I can't begin to guess (well okay: $2M? $2.5M?) what he may be ultimately offered, but let's call it two bones and add it to the savings general manager Jacques Martin will almost certainly see from the loss of Jay Bouwmeester and the seven million he will command.
 
In essence, here's the deal: pending approval of a NTC waive, trade Vokoun (Los Angeles, anyone?), sign Anderson and hope for the best with whatever backup can be found (this much is certain: he ain't comin' from Rochester, and Jacob Markstrom is at the very least a year away. Guaranteed.)
 
Lose Bouw and the potential savings skyrocket to over $10M. 
 
Of course this doesn't account for whatever assets are returned in the Vokoun deal, but the goal for this summer has been set at acquiring scoring - thankfully! - and dollars like those above can unquestionably change a franchise if spent wisely.
 
On the other hand, GM JM may simply hang on to his starter, allow Andy to walk, and search for another #2. But make no mistake: fans in Sunrise have been mightily spoiled with the performance of Anderson over the past two seasons. It's unrealistic to expect the same juice out of his replacement, and his desire to be a team's go-to guy virtually eliminates his return to Florida if Vokoun remains.
 
I'm not advocating dealing T-Vo by any stretch, simply getting prepared for the - growing - possibility that it may happen.

 

Poll
What's your solution to Florida's pending goaltender dilemma?
Keep Vokoun, re-sign Anderson
19 votes
Trade Vokoun for scoring help, re-sign Anderson as new starter, find a backup from the scrap heap
35 votes
Keep Vokoun, allow Anderson to walk, find new backup from the scrap heap
7 votes
Trade Vokoun, allow Anderson to walk, start fresh - let God sort 'em out
3 votes

64 votes | Poll has closed

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There is no doubt in my mind that the panthers have to keep Anderson. Unfortunately it would not make sense to pay both goalies, so trading T-Vo is the right thing to do. Anderson has shown that he is more than capable to lead a team down the stretch, he is the younger of the two, and will be making atleast 3 million less. And you cant overlook the fact that he is an American player who likes to talk to the media and the fans love him.

any clue what type of trade it would take to get that number one pick? J-Bo’s rights, T-Vo, and our number one pick is a fairly nice package for any team in needs of a boring interview, a solid goalie, and a prospect.

by milhouse on Apr 15, 2009 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Howdy, Milhouse, and welcome to the show!

any clue what type of trade it would take to get that number one pick?

It begins with Booth or Frolik. Period, the end.

by Donny Rivette on Apr 15, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Period, the end.

I hope that means you are saying that Booth and Frolik are non-starters. I wouldn’t trade those guys at this point. Keep the picks and players you have stocked and if you trade T-Vo (Great nickname) trade him for a roster player or a late first. FLA isn’t that far away that they need to blow up the roster for a prospect, no matter how highly touted.

by Rob Parker on Apr 17, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

By that I meant: Ain’t happening.

Neither guy is going anywhere.

by Donny Rivette on Apr 17, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

DpD Says:

I’ve been clammoring for us to trade Voky for scoring help and re-sign Andy long term all season.
I doubt they’ll do it. But hey…one can dream.

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by David Dwork on Apr 15, 2009 12:08 PM EDT reply actions  

JM didn’t even pull the trigger on a J-Bo trade at the deadline, there is little hope in him trading his star goalie… but it certainly does make sense. And so did getting something in return for our most coveted player who we will get absolutely nothing for.

unless you like over paying for over the hill veterans

by milhouse on Apr 15, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I stand by the fact that trading J-Bo was not an option unless a “too goo to pass up offer” came about, but it didn’t. Getting something isn’t always better than getting nothing. There was no guarantee that we would have made the playoffs if we traded him & if we still didn’t make it, then it would have been blamed on the trade.

I’m on the fence about trading T-Vo….I like him & Andy but as W4E points out, that is a lot of coin in just the goalies alone.

by CLG_74 on Apr 15, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keep them BOTH. Together they were one of the best goaltending tandems. I know it is unlikely since Andy seems to want to try and be a starter.

Vokoun is our money guy, the people who want to trade him are being way too reactionary. He faced the most shots in the NHL and kept a great save percentage.

by HockeyAndLoathing on Apr 15, 2009 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

In a perfect world I’d perfectly agree, HAL. What club wouldn’t want this duo?

Keeping T-Vo’s near-$6M salary coupled with Andy’s potential raise (again, let’s call it $2M for laughs – could be far more due to market forces) and suddenly the Cats are saddled with two goaltenders making nearly (or more than) eight million bones per.

That’s a lotta coin. Anderson has made it easier by saying he wishes to be a number one, so it’s going to be a case of “either/or”.

by Donny Rivette on Apr 15, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its definitely a “one or the other” proposition.

I like Andy, the team seemed to react better to Andy as well in certain circumstance with enhanced scoring, etc.

That being said Vokoun is a good to great goalie considering the amount of shots he faced on a nightly basis and his statistics. Wonder if there’s anyway he could work on his focus so those soft shots don’t go in.

And the potential $10M in cap space and trade possibilities – whoa.

by coasterg on Apr 15, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

didn’t vote but i am conflicted very much about this situation. i think there is very slim chance that we trade Vokoun unless, again, its too good to pass up. But really, who’s gonna want a goalie making as much money as he is and with the reputation he has for blowing leads late in important games and getting off to terribly slow starts (even tomas knows thats his problem…)

unless we can trade him to someone desperately needing goaltending (after an early exit this year, might the Red Wings fit that bill?) and with enough quiality to return to us. however, don’t you think if we put up more than 2 goals a game Vokoun wins about 10 more? he’s top 5 in gaa and save percentage, gaa somewhere in the 2 range.

the offense is the problem first and foremost, so spend JBo’s money on that! what about havlat, gaborik, hossa, just to name a few of the top line scorers that will be available come June. looking forward to a busy offseason!

by alterego6487 on Apr 16, 2009 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

But really, who’s gonna want a goalie making as much money as he is and with the reputation he has for blowing leads late in important games and getting off to terribly slow starts

With respect, I’d disagree that these are league-wide criticisms. His contract is not outrageous given his career performance and numbers.

As for blowing leads and slow starts, he’s been in Florida for two seasons now. The first slow start – could be – attributed to adjusting to a new team, system, etc.

This year’s slow start was definitely a result of the entire club – many of whom hadn’t played together before – reacting to a new coach and yet another new system.

And both years he faced more shots than ever before in his NHL life. Yes, he gives up some poo from time to time, but he’s “won” far more games than he’s “lost” (singlehandedly at least).

The entire league knows all of this, so his value really isn’t diminished or tarnished too badly. Still a top-flight option for any club.

IMHO, of course.

by Donny Rivette on Apr 16, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I voted to keep Koun and let Anderson walk. Koun is a known quantity. He has carried the load as a no. 1 goalie, taken his team to the playoffs, and played extremely well in the playoffs. Anderson has shown a ton of potential and been an excellent back up, but there is still a question as to how that translates to being ‘the guy’ over 60-65 games a season. That said, I would be patient with it and wait to see what offers you can get for Koun, especially at the draft. If there are no “must take” trade offers by the end of the draft I would just let Anderson walk. If you get a “must take” offer then you can move Koun and still have about a week to get Anderson under contract.

by Rob Parker on Apr 17, 2009 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

No disputing any of that, FaB.

I really should have stated more forcefully that Vokoun is a true prize in a league with few guarantees.

But I’m certainly open to suggestion. If GM JM gets a logical offer, I’m willing to entertain it.

by Donny Rivette on Apr 17, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

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