Florida Panthers : Free Agency Live Blog - David Booth remains a Cat
by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2009 8:47 PM EDT
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I'm not comfortable with that tail.
We're just going to ramp this up and get the party started.
And here's a question: why hasn't a rat been incorporated into a new secondary logo? Seems criminal that the club is not following up on that. Oh well.
Hearing rumors? Got ideas? Need info to be shared? Post it up. This is YOUR open thread, so anything goes. Breaking news? Report it (with links). Questions? We'll find answers.
This will remain in place through the morning, so check back often...the comments post live.
And thanks for stopping by; it'll be a fascinating day. Go Cats.
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Hi All
Thanks for dropping in. We have a shoes-off policy at the door.
Hope you’ll continue to hit The Box as the night – and day – go on. Once more, you hear a rumor, have a suggestion, need to rant…post it up here. We’re gonna lead the free world as “Panthers Info Central”.
I can’t be here every second, but collectively, we can climb mountains. Let’s hear it all.
Nice post by Dave Joseph at the official site:
No one really seems to know how active teams will be come Wednesday due to the cap and economic climate. Vancouver’s GM Mike Gillis is in Sweden trying to negotiate a deal to keep Henrik and Daniel Sedin, who some believe could command $7 million a season each.
That’s market value, chilluns.
Bouw signed per TSN. Whooppppeee. Where are you Andy?? I like Cammy. Watched lots of Flames games last season.
I’m so thrilled for him. That’s wonderful. Just awesome. Phenomenal. Spectacular.
by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s funny, Fehr…there really is no hatred here. Pockets of it, yes, but generally nothing crazy. We’ve been expecting this for soooooo long that it doesn’t even register as a problem, or offensive, or traitorous.
Personally? I’m thrilled the watch-andwait deal is over and done with.
by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m sure you are happy that the sideshow is done, I can definitely appreciate that. I’m just annoyed that I think he intentionally mislead the Panthers and killed (or at least helped GMJM kill) his trade value. If he had just said “I don’t want to be here” then fine, the front office could move him. He said he wouldn’t sign before July 1, which kills the trade value for his rights (weird how that all turned out, huh). Granted, GMJM should have read between the lines and known he wasn’t going to resign, but J-Bo just acted like a stuck up cock-tease through the whole process. All this by a guy who has accomplished exactly what in his hockey life?
Wait till he goes to Edmonton for the first time. Wanna see that reception.
Nice pickup, Wpg.
by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Can we now PLEASE collectively move along? Unless of course Bertuzzi gets a 2-year $12M deal in TO.
by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Eddie is attempting a comeback. Berto’s been doing that for four years.
by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Cammalleri is leading in a landslide on the previous poll.
And the rat thing is my mission in life. Get it on the shoulder. NOW.
Only if it’s a respectable replacement. Otherwise, keep it as is.
by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
i voted yes on the rat, as long as it looks nothing like that dumb rat they have on scoreboards in the arena trying to pump up the crowd.
I’m talkin’ a mean rat here, people. Nothing Disney.
by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if Olli and J-Bo will be road roomies…
Bo + Phaneuf + Olli + Iginla = $$$ wow… wonder if they’ll be able to put a full 20 man roster on the ice all 82 games… they didn’t last year, lol.
Anyhoo, I’m not expecting much action from the Panthers in free agency, beyond resignings at least. Of course, if for whatever reason they can’t get anyone re-signed, they’d kinda have to look elsewhere. right? i mean that just makes sense, but you never know with this franchise. should be an interesting 24 hours.
normally, i wouldn’t threadjack, but if you wander over to my site you might get some entertainment on my post about Calgary playing with a 16 man roster.
Anyway, the last thing I’m going to say about Jay Bo, is I will laugh hysterically if the Flames replicate this year next season, by getting beat in the first round because they have zero offensive punch beyond their first line.
by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Turned down their money, I would guess.
by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
bored
Will Heatley waive his NTC and go to the Oilslick?
Not if he has a choice in the matter.
by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Insane. You really – REALLY – can’t write this stuff.
by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
NHL.com is now reporting it.
Although they are quoting Sportsnet & TSN. You’d think the NHL would be privy to this without those sources.
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Done deal. This one’s a lock. * Boy do I have to book a flight to the Med *
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
battle for alberta
Wow my pals in Cowtown a bit too full of themselves today!
It’s done. Bouw is now officially a Flame. Good for him. So special.
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
When is the 1st game between Cgy & Edm?
Should be a good tilt.
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Just read same thing on RDS
Heatley ne veut pas passer aux Oilers - which in English says…..No way jose Edmonton.
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…right up until the second week of October.
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
“Didn’t waive”? Not following. But I want to!
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
And the silence out of the Billboard is deafening.
Why isn’t Booth signed already – get it done. I do appreciate what they had to do with Eminger, getting burned by arbitration would’ve been bad.
And their blog/press release is fairly vague, no mention of some of the 2 UFA they should pursue – ie Cammelleri, Tanguay.
They really need to make a splash, right now its just a drip.
still waiting to hear david booth and 5 years and millions in the same sentence…..
just wondering, any of you guys go on the miami herald or sun sentinel sites and read their panthers blogs?? its amazing how much bashing the people on there do, as well as the writers. dave hyde’s the latest, making fun of this new endeavor with Rosenhaus. While it might be a little strange, i give the team credit for being creative and unique and trying to do what it can to win over a very fickle and apathetic sports market. granted, bringing in a goal-scorer would create the same buzz. just wanted to see what you guys, who don’t seem to be as hard on the team as others, had to say about that. it really makes me angry sometimes. hopefully today there will be something news-worthy to talk about and not just more rumors..
Creative marketing is fine. If it actually results in my season ticket price dropping its even better.
But marketing does not replace getting appropriate talent. This team has been through so much good talent during its history and much of it was lost without capitalizing on it.
I’d rather see them sign 1 great player and a few good ones to round out this team and get it performing.
All the marketing in the world cannot replace performance. Whatever the marketing department tells you contradicting this is flat out wrong.
I’m getting nervous too. I’m relatively new to (NHL anyway) hockey. Not sure I can go through this angst every year. If Booth wants to stay long-term, and Andy would take a sensible offer.. Whazzup?!
Wait until about 3 pm. You’ll be mummified.
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Quiet day so far. I guess Gomez moving is the big news so far. I think it’s funny, but Gainey could have had his underperforming center who was actually from Quebec if he would have called Holmgren. The guy obviously was not thinking straight last night.
by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2009 11:04 AM EDT reply actions
Gainey’s not been himself for a while now. At least he got his draft pick who’s local…the fans are loving him
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Justin Duberman (Andy’s agent):
“The Panthers have his rights until noon tommorrow and the Panthers have until noon to make an offer, if they want him back, that’s agreeable to Craig, and at this point it hasn’t happened. We had a few conversations today. Both were brief. The Panthers did in fact make an offer. It wasn’t agreeable by us. If they want to readjust it, they can. If not, come noon tommorrow we’ll start talking to other teams.”
Stiff.
they had to do it. Reasonable contracts, I suppose.
by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
the biggest problem I am having with this Rosenhaus stuff, is the timing. It is obviously a cover up for what I am going to assume to be lack of action in free agency, and potentially losing some key current players as well.
was just thinking the same thing, milhouse…poor timing. although the two are different aspects of the team, the whole front office should be focused on the events of today and getting Booth and Leopold signed! yormark really has no say in that, and its all his doing with rosenhaus, so hopefully its not involving deboer and sexton too much.
by alterego6487 on Jul 1, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Y’know, I had been thinking something along those lines as well. I am in fear that Reinprecht is going to be our big signing and that’s all until they go overseas.
I get the impression he doesn’t want to be there anyway. Remember when he was “sorta” traded to the Cats at the deadline?
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Wonder if he’d want to be here. Not for that sort of money, of course, but I wouldn’t mind seeing Neil wearing the palm tree/hockey stick on his shoulder.
Hmm hope something more exciting happens. Like so many others, I’ll miss Andy If he doesn’t sign. Becauuse of his goalie skills… definitely not because of his ADD/ ogling thing. That’s disturbing no matter who it comes from.
That’s why he’s a perfect fit for the fishsticks
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Panthers are promoting a player tracker at their site:
http://panthers.nhl.com/transactions/PlayerTracker09.htm
Lets see some Cat negotiation and signing action today!
Anyone else have that sinking feeling in their stomachs that the Panthers are just going to re-sign a couple guys (Dvorak\Skrastins) and then just sit back and watch?
I really believe they’ll get someone of substance. Unless they have hella-faith in Frolik, Repik, Matthias, Ellerby.
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
i never was expecting much from us today. so i can’t say just resigning booth, skrastins, leopold and dvorak will be a letdown. it will actually be far from it.
someone please help me with this RFA status…if we don’t sign Booth by ten minutes, does that mean he’s a goner? we can match any other teams offer, but can’t he take which one he chooses?
He can sign a sheet but the Cats have the right to match anything at whatever price. Dangerous stuff cuz it can blow your whole salary structure out of whack by overpayin a guy
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
If they hadn’t offered that “qualifying offer” by the deadline Monday (which they did), he would have been an unrestricted free agent in about 4 minutes. Still not sure why it’s taking so long to get a deal done.
Guess they could wait all day before announcing. Some crazy strategy?
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
As always, a pleasure to be here, W4E. Let’s hope there’s some action today so we get something to talk about.
im feeling the same way….hope we’re not just talking about potentials….
the thing that bothers me the most about our lack agressiveness in free agency is the fact that even the Lightning will probably make a splash…theres talks of them going after a BIG defensemen, an obvious need…yet nothing from the BAC.
by alterego6487 on Jul 1, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Roloson on the market
Edmonton looks like they might need a starting goaltender… think Andy might get a call from the Oil?
Isn’t he just short of his 53rd birthday?
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Boy it stinks I have to be at work & this is the only time I can really check to see what is going on, until I get home from work, but I have errands to do right afterwards….sigh :-/
TSN says 7 years..3.75 million per….nuts!
by alterego6487 on Jul 1, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
the hawks endeared themselves to me greatly this year…i guess you could say they’re my Western team? hossa there would be scary.
by alterego6487 on Jul 1, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
That should about wrap it up for Havlat, then
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
i feel like that’s questionable. he did get WRECKED.
by alterego6487 on Jul 1, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
good to hear…hopefully he can turn our guys into pros knowing what it takes from his experience
by alterego6487 on Jul 1, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Kewl. Sportsnet’s got nuthin…now on ESPN…I’ll shadow LeBrun and Burnside. Yes, I abhor the WWL, but these two are top notch
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
thankfully all these updates aren’t about guys I want in Florida….except Hossa, but we knew that was a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooong shot.
Can’t imagine there was THAT much interest in Dvo. Could be wrong, I guess. What is the deal with pels anyway?
Can’t be too long before we find out. His name will pop up somewhere
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn’t they just make a big deal with Mike Smith a couple summers ago? Wasn’t he supposed to be the savior in net in Tampa?
They’ve had six saviours in that time. Who can keep up? I believe you’re right.
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
you are. my good friend is a Bolt’s fan and swears that Smith is good enough to get them to the playoffs…guess Kroules doesn’t feel the same.
in other news, Marlins Stadium IS NOW UNDER CONSTRUCTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by alterego6487 on Jul 1, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently the Lightning backup Ramo surprised the Bolts by bolting… for Russia, so they needed a #2. Conklin is as good a backup as you can probably get. I wouldn’t have minded seeing florida make an offer to Conklin.
We may have…nothing concrete on the Bolts yet
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Smith is definitely a legit goalie and tampa’s starter. He’s one of those amazing goalies on a really bad team.
by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Where are you reading this stuff? Argh, I refuse to believe I don’t have the most up to date links! lol
I’m only using reputable names off of twitter. I know and agree on links – I sometimes over-do it – but things are flying so fast I’d never keep up
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Anything confirmed we’ll post in the title bar of the comments
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
No problem with him. Got a bum rap in TO. Not his fault.
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually I guess it is. Somewhere, Bertuzzi cries in the night
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
And now for something completely different… great match going on in Wimbledon quarterfinal, Roddick v. Hewitt, making it hard to focus on al these rumors… 1 set a piece, 5-5 in the 3rd.
That Roddick’s pretty good, eh?
Got nothing on Bill Kurtis
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
following Roddick on twitter has ruined Wimbledon due to tape delays…he always tweets what happens in his matches….Hanley Ramirez with two more RBI today, 10 straight games with an RBI…What A STUD…..he certainly knows how to score, give him a hockey stick! hahahahhaha
Roddick match is live now. I’ve given up trying to avoid any news to watch tape delayed events. It’s pointless.
tried to do that with the Panthers games in the end of the year….hard to manage not seeing that bottom line rollin on ESPN
I’d be a lot happier seeing that Horton\Weiss\Booth line 2nd, and sitting the Tarnaskys and Krepses more often then not… I’m all for gritty checking lines… but come on…
nothing unfortunately….i guess nobody has money to burn this year.
by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
The deals that have gone down are a LOT lower than I imagined.
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Offers and rumors are flying. Teams are trying to go low, players think they deserve more, so no big moves as of yet realy. Blame it on the economy.
I was musing about installing a portable toilet at my desk
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Adrien Dater reporting it, so I’ll believe it
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey Guys
taking a break from work to say hey!! Did we sign Hossa and the Sedins yet????
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......we signed Joe Sakic? Seriously?
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lol.....well thanks for that. Got my hopes up.
have we signed anybody?
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NICE!!!!!!!!
I REALLY wanted to keep D-vo…..any news on Peltz?
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Just read the Canucks re-sighed the Sedins for 5 years
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nah....not sure he is the 'locker room leader' yet. Hopefully soon tho
But that does raise a good question….who DOES end up getting the C, if anyone?
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WOW. IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!! just got back from the shower, and come back and lo and behold….heres what we’ve been waiting for. six year deal exactly what i wanted to see. and looks as though Anderson is gone….where do we turn and can we put the TVo to _ talks away yet?
Gotta replace Andy if that COL deal is true
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
do we have anybody good enough to call up at goal....dont think so
Beckford-Tseu would be top choice, which means we’ll likely bring in someone
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Was I under a rock or something....we signed Reinprecht?
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wow, i feel like a jackass for missing that!!
shows you how much people care about hockey in the south florida radio business…..nobody said anythign @ work
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yeah i think for an hour on saturday mornigns they put Moller on
during hockey season….of course
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So where do we turn for the G2 spot? Do we try to get one of those Colorado goalies now sans job? or do we hope\pray Vokoun stays healthy and just use Beckford-Tseu or Plante until Markstrom is ready next season?
Forget our boys in the minors. Not near up to it.
Clemmy, baby!
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
how is he available? thought he was Marty's replacement
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well if GOLIDE says it....
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Behold the Twitter ravings of a lunatic:
Eklund: Hossa is a Hawk as is being speculated, then Huet has been dealt.
Did you get the day off from work for this D? :o)
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Worked the a.m.
Can you imagine a world where I’d miss this?
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
can I....? Yes. Do I like it....Noooooo way.
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There may be more ppl in this live chat then at the Marlins game right now....lol
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Can’t follow. I’ve texted(?) but nothing back yet
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
next step....litter box mobile
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Man…you’re right…but I’m not getting younger!!!
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
so i read in the billion e-mails we get
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12 years.....? who he is, gretzky?
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so that basically means that Chicago ain’t winning a cup in the next decade.
by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
no but they'll win the West like 8 of those 12 years
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Gonna have to re-sign Kane and Toews at some point
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
They should be announcing the signing of Chris Chelios to an 8-year deal any moment in Chi Town
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I get absolutley no cell phone service here....
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Roddick is the one that looks like Stiffler, right? :o)
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He is getting paid handsomely to do that.
by Donny Rivette on Jul 1, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Look at us…we’re hoping the starter makes us forget about the backup. Only in Florida.
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