Panthers / NHL Trade Freeze Open Forum
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 11:21 AM EST
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In honor of today's 3pm trade freeze, we'll keep a running tally of Florida Panthers news/rumors/opinions. See something interesting regarding the Cats? Post it up with a link and let us all know. Want the club to go after someone in particular? Give us the scoop. Ready to never set eyes on a certain player again? Let's hear it.
- Letter to season seat holders from ownership
- Forward Jeff Taffe recalled from Rochester
- Panthers Friday morning practice cancelled
- Management held organization-wide meeting
Behold, a partial list of participants (and yes, I know Moore is gone) after the jump...
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thats essentially an open letter admitting they’re going to completely overhaul the team… other than a couple of names (vokoun, booth) , all i can say is FINALLY.
by HockeyAndLoathing on Feb 12, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
I find it quite comical. Why the need for “open letters”? They should have signed some legitimate talent in the off-season instead of cheaping out. Every Panther fan and their dog knew this team would be carried by Vokoun and nothing else this season. Now management suddenly gets it? Hysterical.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Feb 12, 2010 10:45 AM EST reply actions
You have to read that as an open letter saying they’re tanking the season.
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And I hate to say it but I’m a fan of getting a good lotto pick for the next draft. Tear it down and rebuild it, just remember to keep the pieces that are good or have good potential.
As long as it’s done correctly – and I’m not the one to make that call – I’m all for it.
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
This isn’t a band-aid…this is open cavity surgery
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
CAR sens Wallin to SJS
Also a 5th round this year. San Jose sends Buffalo’s second-round pick. Also per TSN. Looks like the Hurricanes fire sale is on as well.
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Crap, that was five days ago. How did I miss that?
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That’s what you get for missing staff meetings, doctor
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
visitor here
The FLA fire sale interests me.
Is Nathan Horton available? (sorry if that insults you, I’m not up on Panthers current events)
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No insult at all. According to Sexton EVERYONE is potentially available.
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
And if you give us a few minutes, we’ll come up with some Preds players we’d like on our roster.
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OK, sounds good
Love some rosterbating discussion. And I’ll be glad to tell you who you couldn’t have if hades froze over.
I thought, though, that Booth was untouchable?
At any rate, Horton would look impeccable in a Nashville sweater, and my word do we need some scoring. And we’re most definitely buyers.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 12, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
The only deal which would bring down the roof would be trading Booth. So if anyone’s truly untouchable he’s it.
Season ticket backlash of biblical proportions.
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
so
Interested in any of Dan Hamhuis, Mike Santorelli, Ryan Jones, or, cough, Wade Belak?
Out of those guys (feel free to include a pick or two) what would it take to acquire Horton?
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by Chris Burton on Feb 12, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
I know we can’t have Shea Weber, but I’d take back Marcel Goc or Jordan Tootoo with a decent pick and a prospect at this point. Horton’s was playing well when he got hurt, but he’s got no support here. I’d love to see a gritty guy like Tootoo here. Booth-Matthias-Tootoo would be a nice gritty, dig the puck out of the corner and score a dirty goal line.
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hehe
I think you just want Tootoo so none of your guys get the crap beaten out of them again ;).
Goc and Tootoo were both just re-signed to new deals, so they won’t be moved. Especially Tootoo-it would be a total marketing disaster if they moved him. In the city of Nashville he’s the most marketable player.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 12, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
Really? Interesting. I understand why. Probably much the same reason for Booth here. Really, I want Tootoo because our team is soft. The only guys really willing to go out there and fight for pucks are Booth, Matthias, Horton (this season) and a bunch of guys playing in Rochester.
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yeah
Tootoo will hit anyone or anything, doesn’t really discriminate.
The reason he’s so marketable is because Nashville is a football town. Tootoo plays hockey like football, sort of. So he’s popular.
If we were in Hamilton (god forbid), Shea Weber would be one of the league’s most popular players.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 12, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
I like Weber. I grabbed him early for my fantasy team and our friends in Nashville about blew a gasket because I got him before either of them could.
I can’t comment on the rest of those players as other than Dan Hamhuis, I haven’t seen much from them. I haven’t seen many Preds games this season. My problem with a lot of the guys on that team is the same as the ones we have here. Too much money for not enough scoring.
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its very useful
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by Chris Burton on Feb 12, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Everyone’s available. Except Vokoun, because he won’t waive his no-trade yet.
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Never mind. Vokoun just told George Richards he would “consider” waiving his no-trade.
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My guess is that decision was made around 10:15 last night.
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
The real question is...
Will I have any player jerseys left of players that are still here in three weeks?
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let the taylor hall sweepstakes begin!!!
by HockeyAndLoathing on Feb 12, 2010 11:16 AM EST reply actions
Johnny – I temporarily bumped the Town Hall post below the open forum. I’ll promote it again after 3pm.
This came up while I was posting. If I’d seen it I would have waited until later to post. That’s breaking news for you.
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No problem at all…it’s still up, just underneath the Forum. GREAT stuff, BTW, and entirely relevant.
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
I’m guessing we may see Vokoun go and have Markstrom come in next season as many of us conjectured earlier in the season.
If that happens, do they play Salak or get a backup in the trade? If I was GM, I’d push for a backup in the deal.
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Gotta take care of Rochester…lose Salak and they’re finished
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Taking a trade break
Hopefully if anything important comes up it will be on Twitter because it’ll hit my phone.
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does Litter Box Cats or any of you editors have
a Twitter I can follow?
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by Chris Burton on Feb 12, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Trade for
This is a rebuild, so I assume the Panthers want youth.
Would they take a chance on a guy like Liles from the Avs. He’s odd man out right now in Colorado, and he’s a bit overpaid, but he’s still a solid player and would be a good player, especially in the east.
That said, I’m not sure you guys want another puck-moving defenseman who is a bit weak in his own end.
I was thinking Liles + (3rd rounder) Draft pick for Stillman, but I honestly have no idea if that’s something FLA would be interested in.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 12, 2010 11:58 AM EST reply actions
Might be too soon even to speculate since we don’t have a pattern to work from yet.
No problem with Liles, but why the push to get him out of COL? That’s been going on quite a while if I recall correctly.
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
I already told Jibbles
Liles and Svatos for Hamhuis and Jones helps everyone! ;)
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by Chris Burton on Feb 12, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Eh
He’s just the odd-man out. Avs have 8 quality healthy defensemen, and the Avs farm system is stocked with similar defensemen coming up soon. 4 of the Avs best 6 prospects are at D, and all play a similar style to Liles.
Shattenkirk in particular is playing at BU now and is likely to join the team next season, and he’s going to be a flat-out stud. With the emergence of Cumiskey as well, Liles has just become expendable.
He’s a good player, but overpaid. That said I think he’s a top-5 guy in the league and could help the Panthers. He’s an upgrade over a guy like Leopold for sure.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 12, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
wtf
not every day a former Rocket winner is on waivers.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 12, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
agreed. just getting a measure from somebody. Too bad, he has really gone downhill and his name was a real catchy one. Also, we all never heard of Moose Factory until he came into the league!
by The Rat Trick on Feb 12, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Only if they put him on re-entry waivers and we can get him for half his salary.
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Even $1.5M is too much for a five-goal player.
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Wish I didn’t have to work today, as it seems like the day has the potential to be a crazy one. Tried calling my ticket rep and emailing too, but no response yet as the big meeting must still be going on!
All I can say is this is a long time coming and I’m all for a complete overhaul, but done right of course. Now does this mean that Randy Sexton gets to stay a bit longer? Past this season?
They’re on a big push to sell tix packages; call it the “Apology Tour”
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
I was at game last night. my seats are in a prime place as far as the owners are concerned! Lots of yelling and long faces. Nomrally I say hello to Stu. I decided last night was night I wouldn’t.
by The Rat Trick on Feb 12, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
CLG was there too. “Miserable” doesn’t describe her mood afterward.
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
As expected one of them was most vocal. won’t say his name but it rhymes with Yormark.
by The Rat Trick on Feb 12, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
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We’re aware of the funkified layout on the page right now…affecting all of SB Nation. Tech crew is on it.
LOL
I make it a policy not to quote him…but some of the “ideas” are intriguing, even though they are BS.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 12, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
Surprised nothing has happened yet.
by keithwozniak on Feb 12, 2010 12:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
This could go until after 4 or 5; proposals have to be accepted by NHL office at 3, so announcements could take a while.
Hopefully there’s a minor bidding war taking place
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
The Caps could use a great goalie, should start a Vokoun to Washington rumor!
by keithwozniak on Feb 12, 2010 12:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Feel free…but I don’t want to face T-Vo 6 times a year!
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
what's Horton's cap hit?
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Completely reasonable if he remains hot, obviously.
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
hmm
Wouldn’t have to resign him, which is good, but may be slightly over NSH’s budget considering Rinne, Weber, Suter, Franson, Wilson will all need to be resigned during that time.
Still interested though. In your opinion, what would Sexton want for Horton?
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by Chris Burton on Feb 12, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Panthers’ leading scorer until the injury? Gonna have to look a little closer at NAS’s roster. Weber’s obviously in demand, but doesn’t replace the scoring.
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
best player available
is Hamhuis. Got a lot of good prospects you can have.
Weber, Suter, Franson, Hornqvist and Wilson untouchable.
Goc, Klein, Tootoo resigned.
Arnott, Dumont, Erat, Legwand NTCs.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 12, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
From the Open Letter
Can’t get this line out of my head…
Unfortunately, these changes will not always be easy for our fans and supporters to accept or understand.
Now who in the current lineup will not be easy for fans to accept or understand the loss of?
Olesz? Campbell? Kreps? Even Weiss or Horton? Doubtful.
Perhaps talking bigger than them?
Denis Svihdki! sorry about spelling, but i think we all know him
by The Rat Trick on Feb 12, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
The problem is, we’ve seen it all before, I don’t think anybody who has been a Panther fan for a while will be shocked by anything they do. I mean, Barnes/Wooley for Wells, Luongo for Allen, Auld, Bertuzzi, etc., etc., etc.
I know where you’re coming from.
I’m ready for a true nuke-job.
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
You’ll get your phone call soon enough
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
This day has made my phone battery die quicker than usual. Today could be a record having to charge my battery twice.
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I'm excited and scared to see what happens today
…might as well be my wedding day
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I don’t see Leopold making it past the trade deadline this year. Olesz is probably going to go as well.
Olesz has that fat contract around his neck…we’ll have to take on salary in return
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Heading out for a couple hours to run errands…hoping there is nothing to cry about when I get back.
D- if anything should go do shoot me a text, if you don’t mind. :o)
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Twitter’s slowed to a crawl…time to breathe (and nothing’s even happened yet!)
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
Now he’s saying CHI’s looking at a defenseman. MAKE UP YOUR MIND
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
hell no
That’s his Twitter
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by Chris Burton on Feb 12, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
he stole that from the awesome and accurate Kevin Allen
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by Chris Burton on Feb 12, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
have you noticed
That someone accurate and reputable like Dreger or McKenzie tweet something tradey, and he immediately “scoops” it with no RT or acknowledgment? Priceless.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 12, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Absolutely no shame. And schlubs pay for that luxury.
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
I could do exactly what he does
Except with better grammar and more punctuation.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 12, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
WTF is that
Is there something I don’t know?
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by Chris Burton on Feb 12, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
OMG
If it was possible for him to lose credibility, he just did.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 12, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
Very quiet ev erywhere. No movement from any clubs since late morning.
Calm before the storm?
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
they may be waiting
Till the very last minute?
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by Chris Burton on Feb 12, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
its an interesting conundrum
The selling team doesn’t want to pay Player X over the break, but the buying team doesn’t either.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 12, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
Back from errands
See I’ve missed nothing but some Eklund drivel.
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Now he’s just agreeing with everything McKenzie write. Pathetic.
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
also, how many times have people accidently almost entered to be k-y’s top couple? ive been here about 1 minute and have already clicked it twice on accident.
about 58x, give or take a few
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by Chris Burton on Feb 12, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
Certainly produced a whimsical bunch of emails between site managers yesterday
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
On the sidebars; easier to see if you to “narrow” mode. Jokes are all over this thing.
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
From McKenzie:
TSNBobMcKenzie Horton, Weiss, Frolik, Booth, Ballard and Kulikov are core guys. I’m not buying a lot of rumors I’m hearing on guys like Horton and Booth.
Also adds FLA is taking a lot of calls.
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Yes and no. They are core guys and a lot of it may be wishful thinking. But then you don’t have a meeting about “big changes” and send out that kind of message if you’re trading Stillman, Seidenberg and Frolik.
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I heard we are going to trade Horton and Booth in a package deal for Weiss, Frolik, Ballard, and Kulikov in exchange for time spent on injured reserve.
And Dominic Moore’s crushed nose has been waived
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
oh wow!
Winter Olympics are intense, I feel like you can die in just about every event in that sport. (Skii Jumping, figure skating if Tanya Harding is involved)
Reports are coming in that he passed away. Horrible.
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Apparently YouTube removed the video already as well. What a day.
by Donny Rivette on Feb 12, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Vokoun Interview
http://panthers.nhl.tv/team/console.jsp?catid=724&id=60252 The music makes it worth it.
this could be that no team is giving up enough in return i can bet that those that wanted in are bluffing and might just take dips at the cats come deadline on march 3
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waitaminute…. was that really a pic of Eklund? I am speechless.
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