The 2010 Kiddy Cats in Buffalo
At the end of the 2010 Entry draft the whole hockey world was praising Dale Tallon and his scouting staff for the job they had done on the floor over a two day span in Los Angeles. In fact the entire process had many "experts" and fans alike thinking, "the future looks bright in Florida".
Fast forward 7 months, just days after the conclusion of the IIHF World U20 Championships held in Buffalo, New York and we're starting to get a good first impression of what the Florida Panthers actually have from this draft. It should be noted that the World Junior tournament is a small sample size of hockey but the degree of competition provides a valid source of analysis and a stage like no other.
This years tournament featured five Panthers prospects, four of which were of the 2010 draft class. In a tournament of this size, the Panthers were well represented in terms of sheer volume and once again Dale Tallon should be praised, but how did Erik Gudbranson, Nick Bjugstad, Quinton Howden, and Joonas Donskoi fare from an analytical perspective? Does the future still look bright in Florida?
Erik Gudbranson (7GP, 3G, 2A, 5PTS, 4 PIM, +8): Florida's top prospect at the tournament sadly continued his troubling play from the OHL season showing moments of dominance but more often than not lackluster defensive play on the third Canadian pairing (including being responsible for the GWG by Russia), and besides a 3 point performance against the now relegated Norwegians the Panthers defensive prospect was very quiet offensively. Despite wanting to be in the spotlight (See: Nike Boom), and the fact that Gudbranson was the highest NHL draft pick playing in the tournament with Hall and Seguin playing for their NHL clubs, the Kingston standout Dman just couldn't find the game he was thought to have at the draft. The mean goliath we saw last year was not the player we saw in Red and White that was on the ice for Russia's gold medal winning goal at this years tournament. There seems to have been a major regression in Erik's game, and this isn't based just on the World Juniors. The Frontenac defender has tallied only 3 goals in 21 games, played mediocre defense and found himself constantly taking bad penalties-- it isn't even a stretch to say he's not even the best defender on the team as 6'8 Taylor Doherty has carried the blueline all season long. With so much depended upon with last years draft, it's unfortunate to see Florida's top prospect from 2010 struggling, especially when this was thought to be a coming out party for the 19 year old (Happy Birthday Erik!).
Nick Bjugstad (6 GP, 2G, 2A, 4 PTS, 0 PIM, +2): If you just paid attention to the highlights of the tournament, especially early on in the round robin, you might have assumed that Nick had a successful tournament and the mid-first selection in last seasons entry draft was a force to be reckoned with. That couldn't be farther from the truth. The Panthers were looking to get big with their first round selections and while on paper all three are huge compared to the IIHF competition, Nick Bjugstad standing 6'5 played very small for most of the tournament. The college game is hard to translate to the this type of tourny, and many collegiate players struggle in this format, but that being said, Nick could hardly be seen on the ice--even for a college player. He was playing a big role in the United States top 6 (unlike countryman and fellow KiddyCat, Drew Shore) and tallied the 3rd most shots by the Americans with19, but he played slow, and besides a goals against the Swedes and Fins, he showed very little skill with his hands. Drafting out of the Minnesota High School system has always been a huge risk, but it was thought that Bjugstad had the skill to be a legitimate top 6 centerman in the Florida Panthers future, unfortunately he played less of a dominating role and more of a role you'd expect from Byron Bitz. Lets look on the brightside though, Nick had a beautiful game winning overtime goal against a strong Finnish team, but he couldn't translate his big size into physical play--on and off the puck he struggled outside of the 5 foot area of the oppositions goal--which isn't a bad thing considering the Panthers' struggles in this area this season. Nick's game desperately needs to evolve, because what worked for him in High school did not translate to the faster-paced international game.
Quinton Howden (7GP, 2G, 3A, 5PTS, 4PIM, +6): The offensive numbers just weren't there (Unlike Kuznetsov who was drafted 1 pick after Howden) which is a bit unfortunate given the oppurtunity Quinton was givie early on in the tournament with many of the thought to be Canadian stars sidelined with injury or suspension. However there were chances on Quinton's end (his stick is going to have to be glued to the ice as he missed 2 wide nets) and he was playing a solid 2 way game. In fact, comparisons were drawn early on during training camp between St. Louis Blues defensive stalwart (and former Team Canada U20 Representitive) Jay McClement because of Howden's exceptional play in his own end. Given his role on the team, not a lot of bad things can be said about the way he played. Howden looked by far the most NHL ready of all the 2010 Florida Prospects and proved to be very coachable. After the Swiss game Coach Cameron was praising the forward for his hockey I.Q. and considered Quinton a big reason for the win. So while he didn't tear up the tournament he played a significant role in Canada's silver medal performance, and for a team starved for a winning culture, this is a player Florida should be looking forward to having on its roster. This could actually be said for all 4 prospects as while long term over the tournament there was nothing to write home about, all played a key role in at least one of their country's wins.
Joonas Donskoi (6GP, 3G, 3A, 2PIM, +5): Easily the surprise prospect at the tournament, Donskoi, a 4th round selection from Raahe Finland, was one of the leaders on the Finnish squad, tallying the 3rd most points on the team. But more than the fact that his offensive numbers were the best of all Panthers prospects, Donskoi showed an impressively active stick on both sides of the ice and NHL level puck moving ability. Unfortunately pattern presented itself, as Donskoi's physicality has to be questioned during this tournament. Against the Americans and Russians Donskoi was a shell of himself, and it seemed like as soon as he was checked his game drastically changed. It could be nerves, but the young Finnish prospect is going to have to address these issues moving forward, and unlike the other prospects, Donskoi doesn't look to have an "NHL body" quite yet. His frame stands at 6' 180lbs, but for the type of game he's playing at an international level he's going to have to bulk up considerably, but that comes with time and he's still only 18 years old and there will be plenty of time for development.
That being said, it's early in the developmental process of these four prospects and the door shouldn't be closed on the futures of these young players. But from an intial viewpoint just months after being drafted, the fact remains that there doesn't seem to be a star in the mix-- and while good teams are built from top to bottom with good players, they have horses, and they ride them. This is an organization that has gone years without a bonafide top of the league talent (Pavel Bure was perhaps the last skater of note) and in a market saturated with starpower, the 2010 draft really needed to produce a game changer. Only time will tell if the 2010 draft class (and remember, there could be someone we haven't seen in the tournament that evolves their game considerably) was a success but one thing can be said for certain, in Buffalo, the Kiddy Cats left a lot to be desired especially in terms of star power, and at least from the scope of this under-20 tournament, the future looks cloudy with some sun.
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Nice writeup...
But I can’t say I agree with you on Gudbranson at all. Just didn’t see anything but solid play from him.
Half Empty?
Wow Fisch, what a half empty assessment! Either you don’t like the Panthers, Dale Tallon or both! Sure Guds has not played to his potential this year. Obvoiusly more evident in Kingston vs. the recent Jr. Championships. Perhaps it is because he expected to be here. Regardless, all these KIDS are just 18 years old. Their bodies AND brains are still not fully developed. Personally I look at the +/- as the most important stat and from that persprctive, not so bad eh? Jeff Skinner half way through the year is still looking like a better pick vs.Hall and Seguin. Does that mean he’s better?(I think so!)..Still, only time will truly tell us what we got from these picks. We will know their true makeup and CHARACHTER once they mature. Wasn’t Rosty supposed to be the next up and coming star? He was a BOY playing with older and more experienced MEN in the Czech Elite League…….Problem?? No Charachter!!
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Perhaps it is because he expected to be here.
If that is a reason why he’s been less than the next Chris Pronger with Kingston this year than he’s got issues. Don’t believe for a second that’s the case; we all know about about his character and maturity.
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by Donny Rivette on Jan 7, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Forgot 1!
And now that you covered those 4 2010 picks,can you please tell us now all that is wrong with Drew Shore?
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I don’t know if anything was “wrong” with Drew Shore (or any of the other Panthers prospect that participated in the tournament for that matter—If you’ll notice I thought most had a good showing, but as I mentioned a lot was to be left desired by their play). I think he unfortunatley found himself with a lesser role and despite being the hottest Panther prospect coming into the tournament (he was 5th in WCHA scoring) he just couldn’t convert on the mainstage.
by Craig Fischer on Jan 7, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
I’m failing to see how so much of this is being considered a hit-job on the kids…
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Don’t know personally, I can’t say I agree with everything said in the post, but considering that it’s about a group of guys who aren’t even AHL eligible at this point I don’t see why this should be seen as anything foreboding or anything more than simply an estimation of where these kids might need to improve.
by JDMorris on Jan 7, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t agree with every word either, but I also failed to find the line that says something similar to “draft busts”.
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by Donny Rivette on Jan 7, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think he’s saying anything about busts. I just completely disagree with his assessment.
In his overall assessment it seems to me that he’s saying something along the lines of ‘because we didn’t have a Brayden Schenn, we were unsuccessful in the 2010 draft.’ But i mean, come on. Look at the ages of these guys, particularly with Bjugstad. Bjugstad right now should still be in highschool. Instead, he graduated a full year early to jump into his college career. So we have a highschool senior playing in an international tournament playing on the top line on the 3rd best team in the tournament. Right there, i’m satisfied. He scored a few goals, and in my opinion played very well along the boards, so i’m that much more than satisfied.
Next, you have to consider who the prospect is. In Howden’s case, he’s not a goal scorer, per se. In fact, his big thing right after he was drafted was that he would most likely end up being an NHL 3rd liner. But after seeing his performance in the WJC, it seems like he could easily end up being a strong 2nd liner. He displayed his speed, his hitting ability, and his hands. So yeah, Howden playing on the third line of the (arguably) best team in the world, put up 5 points and a large +/- rating. I’m happy with him.
Guds is touted as a defensive defensman with possible offensive ability. He got NO powerplay time, and still managed to score 3 goals and 2 assists. He was also on the third pairing, so he was working with limited ice time. As for his defensive miscues, i really don’t know what he’s talking about. I don’t know if he can point to some specific examples, but i watched all but one game and am hard pressed to remember any glaring mistakes. I mean, every player in every game makes mistakes here and there, but i can’t recall any major turnovers or defensive blunders, but i will gladly stand corrected if presented with a few big mistakes. I would also point to his great +/- rating throughout the tournament, which while it can be a misleading stat, i think it says at least a little something of his strong play throughout the tournament.
Shore, who he didn’t cover, was a surprise for just making the team. He was a 2nd rounder in the draft before last, and has had an extremely strong year in Denver, putting up some 25pts in 20 games. He showed off his hands when scoring a beautiful dekeing goal against Norway or Finland, i can’t remember which. He also played on the third line for the tournament. He probably looked the least comfortable out of all of our players in the tournament.
I just don’t get the disappointment. I think it’s unfounded. I don’t think we’ve ever had 5 players in the tournament before, so that right there shows you how elite these prospects are. They’re held in high enough esteem to be considered in the top 20 of their respective nations, which is incredible. Not only were they selected to the teams, but they produced, and not only on the stat sheet. Guys like Howden and Gudbranson showed their play on both sides ofthe puck, posting strong +/- numbers as well as putting up 5pts each with limited ice time. Bjugstad is playing well above his age group, and will probably feature in the WJC for the next year or two. We’ve got NOTHING to worry about.
I was trying to provide a very early assessment of our 2010 picks— I think I was fair in saying for the most part they were good, but there was nothing to get excited about; there wasn’t a moment where I said “he’s going to be a special player”. If you’ll note I also pointed out it’s early, I’m not shutting the door on these kids, they are 18 and 19 years of age, all I’m doing is saying they did not light the world on fire and I think thats fair.
Howden: I didn’t even concentrate on his offense, most of what I wrote was about his 2 way prowess and compared him to one of the premiere shutdown forwards in the league.
Gudbranson: He had a lot of “miscues” that lead to chances and or goals and to say there were no big ones is an understatement. . Off the top of my head Kuznetsov’s breakaway wraparound chance, he lollygagged to his man (Tarasenko) who then made the game winning assist, if he was playing good defense, that goal never would have happened. What about the 5-5 goal for the Swedes? Another mistake on his end. He cost his team twice because of poor efforts on the defensive end. He wasn’t making these moves last year.
“He got NO powerplay time, and still managed to score 3 goals and 2 assists. He was also on the third pairing” For a team with so few returnees on the backend this speaks volumes to me about his regression and his level of play.
I don’t think we’ve got anything to worry about, but I do think we’re without star from this latet draft.
by Craig Fischer on Jan 7, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, i mean, in general, the article is good, well written, and pretty fair. I just see things in a different light i guess.
You didn’t say these guys are busts, and i would never say you did. So we’re on the same page there. But i think saying that Bjugstad, Howden, or Gudbranson aren’t going to be stars is premature. Not, to be perfectly clear, i’m not saying they will be, but look at Brayden Schenn. The kid played in the WJC last year and put up a respectable 8 points (2/3 of which were assists). Now this year he completely dominated putting up a canadian record-tying 18pts.
So my point is this: A guy like Bjugstad with TONS of raw potential could play in the WJC 3 times, and i would guarantee that he’ll vastly increase his numbers over those three years. A similar situation could come with Howden and Donskoi. Now if we have even a fraction of the draft we had last year, we could have another year of having 5-6 guys at the WJC which gives us a total of almost 10 guys who are considered in the top 20 of their country, and that is unbelievable.
Just one or two other notes: stars are nice, but the real powerful teams have groups of guys who can score. Its all about scoring depth these days, and we’re building that without a doubt.
Also, you’re completely right about Guds having a rough time in Kingston this year, but i thought he played extremely well at the WJC.
Also, thanks for the write up. I always appreciate a view different than my own!
by Holy Jokinen on Jan 7, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Kids
All your prospects had good Worlds…I watched all of the US games and some of the Canadian games as well. All of their names were heard steadily throughout the tourney. I even remember hearing the Donskoi name as well and I didnt even watch but maybe a little of 1 finland game.
The Panthers have some nice prospects on their way…Congrats!
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The folks in Rochester should be excited! Oh, wait…
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by Donny Rivette on Jan 7, 2011 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
he played a significant role in Canada’s silver medal performance
Harsh! Oh wait, you meant that as a compliment.
Loved Donskoi. Didn’t find Bjugstad all that engaging, but I liked the two Canadian players. Let’s face it, the only one who looked good in the second half of the gold medal game for Canada was Cody Eakin. Considering both Gudbranson and Howden were 18, I thought they came off very well.
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by Donny Rivette on Jan 7, 2011 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
He submitted a fanpost. I liked it. You can do it too.
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by Donny Rivette on Jan 7, 2011 3:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
BTW…it’s Stan Fischler.
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by Donny Rivette on Jan 7, 2011 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
Fischer...Fischler.....
I Think his review is absurd…..The Panther org. loves the +- these guys put up….How can you like what he says…….I think he’s a basher and I don’t like bashers
And once Tallon was finished pulling his socks back on after the combined performances of the four concerned – none of whom headlined on TSN beyond Bjugstad’s GW in game one – what did he say next?
No one is bashing these kids here.
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by Donny Rivette on Jan 7, 2011 9:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
DeBoer, via Sun-Sentinel
"Nice to see those guys in pressure situations respond in the right way and making sure everyone understands patience, that these guys aren’t six months away from contributing to an NHL lineup, they’re a few years (away). The future’s bright for sure.’’
His comments reflect that he wasn’t terribly blown away by anyone’s production. Then again, he’s got to play it as such since none ran away with headlines.
We all agree that this was only one tournament.
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by Donny Rivette on Jan 7, 2011 5:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
The wrap from FHS
Their take on a few prospects from the WJC.
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by Donny Rivette on Jan 7, 2011 5:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I still don’t see the rampant negativity…what specifically is so negative?
And why is it suddenly criminal to say something about our prospects that doesn’t paint them in an immediately angelic light?
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by Donny Rivette on Jan 7, 2011 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, a bit sensitive, are we? I thought it was a thought out, objective, unbiased commentary on the four kids we had at the WJC. For the highest 2010 drafted player at the tourney, Gudbranson was good, solid defensively, but wasn’t great on the level that Taylor Hall was clearly the best player in the tournament last year. I guess he had to live up to higher expectations that were deserved based on being #3 overall. Howden, Bjugstad, and Shore were OK, but didn’t stand out.
Taking a critique of 4 players currently in our system in a 6-7 game tournament and yelling “boooo, you suck!” doesn’t really make a lot of sense to me. They didn’t play poorly, they just didn’t stand out. Move on.
I liked the article – it was written with an unbiased eye. It’s meaningful to be a fanatic, but it’s also meaningful to see your prospects without rose-colored glasses.
Nothing in this article said they aren’t going to turn out, nothing said they were busts, the article took the seven games and looked at what happened in them.
Fans in Edmonton believe the prospects will save them but that doesn’t make it so.
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They didn’t play poorly, they just didn’t stand out.
That’s precisely what I took out of it.
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Of course, we cant expect prospects to solve all of our problems, trades and free-agent signings are just as important. So perhaps the nice thing about this article is it allows us not to get our hopes to high, but we should still be really excited for our up n’ coming kids!
Garrett those socks make you look homeless!
Amen, CSU.
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by Donny Rivette on Jan 7, 2011 7:34 PM EST up reply actions

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