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I guess Pete DeBoer has good opinions about Ryan …

by OldDave on Oct 26, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

or maybe Ryan had good opinions about PDB

I hereby predict Captain Mike Weaver #43 will score 6G 20A -RCR 0G3A 10/22
Be impeccable with your word, don't take anything personally, don't make assumptions, always do your best...

by RPC on Oct 26, 2011 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Not surprised, Carter is a good player.

I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 2G/3A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Oct 26, 2011 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ve got to disagree. Carter was a banger, nothing more, and was being outplayed in a major way by Skille, Mattias and others. It’s a reasonable move for the Devils, who need a cheap person to play a fourth, maybe third line center position, and he already is familiar with Pete. So I’ll gladly take the waiver fee for him. Wish him luck, but we have better players now and he had no real future in a Cats sweater.

by badger737 on Oct 26, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ryan Carter

we hardly knew ya

Best Farm System EVER.....

by tiquanunderwear on Oct 26, 2011 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow

This is gay! Ima miss you Carter, you were one of my favs

by CatNipp on Oct 26, 2011 2:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

how is this in any way homosexual?

by stopdropandbreathe on Oct 26, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I knew I should have changed that word. Figured someone would say something. Bye Ryan Carter

by CatNipp on Oct 26, 2011 4:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, let’s go with a different choice of word next time.

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by Donny Rivette on Oct 26, 2011 4:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Be gentle

She might have once been a thespian or still in the process of matriculating at college while practicing celibacy.

by Bill Jempty on Oct 26, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

its the teenage use of the word guys, dont be too hard on him

by Colt1235 on Oct 26, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t Hilary Duff once tell us that it’s not ok?

by Rob PKane McMahon on Oct 26, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Enough.

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by Donny Rivette on Oct 27, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha you guys are funny

by CatNipp on Oct 27, 2011 6:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I had high hopes for him at the start of training camp. Thought he would have been our most improved player. The guy loved to hit but took way too many penalties so far this season. I wish him the best of luck. On another subject, how good has Skille been!

A lil thunder and a lil lightning is what the Cats are going to bring this year.

by trinidaddy on Oct 26, 2011 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

bad and good from this

The downside is that he’s gone and therefore unavailable for SA or the Panthers. The upsides are:
1) He was beat out by better players. This is all that really matters.
2) He wasn’t claimed on re-entry waivers later on, which would have meant the Panthers couldn’t have had him when they needed him AND would be on the hook for half his salary.

I think waiver claims around the league will get more frequent until the next CBA.

by jimmyh71 on Oct 26, 2011 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

It's okay!

As much as it sucks, Bradley has kind of taken over what once was Carter’s role, I feel.
Bradley was hitting people like crazy on Monday. In fact, him or Upshall delivered a HUGE hit close to the end of the game on Monday.

by Weezheat on Oct 26, 2011 5:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Nailed it, Weez.

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by Donny Rivette on Oct 26, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

THIS

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?hlg=20112012,2,111&event=MTL476

Bradley needs to keep doing that. I’d like to see Guds doing it too.

by Ryan Meier on Oct 27, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

That link is broken with my browser (it drops the last part of the URL). Here’s an alternate.

by OldDave on Oct 27, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

The best thing about that play is he takes that guy off the puck so Kennedy can recover it and then gets himself towards the net to be in position to grab that pass from Matthias. Just great positioning and puck movement. They did everything but score on that shift.

"We don't need the designated goon. Those fights aren't even fun to watch." -Mike Milbury

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by John Beatty on Oct 27, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea that line has been fantastic and is getting that elusive chemistry we’ve been hearing all season. I’d like to see more from Kennedy, who I think has some very creative playmaking abilities, and I think as the season goes on and he’s able to find open space, he’s gonna contribute a lot more.

by Ryan Meier on Oct 27, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can’t say this wasn’t coming. Its sad to see him go and not get anything. IMO, there should be compensation from the team that claims the player based of of the players salary. Or at least like baseball where you have the option of keeping him, trading, or releasing the player. To me this is wrong as a player could just need some work and a team have long term plans for him but lose him for nothing, like we did Grabner. This needs to be fixed.

by Ad1zzl3 on Oct 26, 2011 6:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

It’s a balancing act. The waiver rule exists to keep teams from stashing ringers in the minors. There is an exemption for younger players, to benefit the teams, but with the older players, the rule benefits the players more. For Carter, he gets to stay in the NHL, at least for a while. The Panthers likely would have kept him in SA for the rest of the year.

"We don't need the designated goon. Those fights aren't even fun to watch." -Mike Milbury

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by John Beatty on Oct 26, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Understood why its in place but still believe if a player was good enough for a team to claim then they should have to pay for him in one capacity or another. We lost a future star in Grabner who was “not ready” for the Panthers. We try to send him down and got nothing to show for it. Its a ridiculous system. The islanders got a to flight player with out having to trade or bid against someone. He just fell into their lap. Meanwhile We got nothing to show for the Ballard trade. (not mentioning Bernier) No other support, except for Football who does not have a minor league system, would a team not have an option whether to trade, release, or keep the player.

by Ad1zzl3 on Oct 26, 2011 10:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Actually, the Panthers get cash for him. That’s how waivers work. Its like $1500 or $5000 or something in between, but its something.

As for the Ballard trade, the Panthers got a first round pick many expect to contribute as much as Grabner should have. Some players just don’t fit into a system or play for a coach like they should. That’s the breaks. And baseball’s waiver system works precisely the same way as hockeys. Players get waived and another team can claim him. If he clears waivers, then the team has the option of keeping him, trading him, sending him to the minors, or releasing him.

by MrOmnipotent on Oct 26, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

While yes we acquired the first round pick, that’s all we got for Ballard. So essentially we traded Ballard for a first round pick. And traded Grabner for…nothing. Doesn’t add up. Also not that it matters in the realm of hockey but here is a link of understanding how MLB waiver wire works.
http://m.aol.com/news/default/getContent.do?link=http://www.aolnews.com/2010/08/03/your-guide-to-understanding-baseballs-waiver-process/

by Ad1zzl3 on Oct 26, 2011 11:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

First-round selection became Quinton Howden. Could have done far worse.

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by Donny Rivette on Oct 27, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Currently ranked 4th in organization by HF; numbers 2 and 3 are with the team.

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by Donny Rivette on Oct 27, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good add, Crook :)

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by Donny Rivette on Oct 27, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

$3375 to $90,000 depending on position and number of years on a contract ($3375 is over 9 years, $90000 is for goalies with less than 2 years). $125 for unconditional waivers, but those are only used prior to a buyout.

Should have been $26,250 for Carter and $67,500 for Grabner. Would have been the minimum for Reinprecht had he been picked up.

"We don't need the designated goon. Those fights aren't even fun to watch." -Mike Milbury

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by John Beatty on Oct 27, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the incentive for GMs to be careful building their roster. You’re limited to 23 players on the active roster and limited in movement between leagues. Would it be fair to the players if you could sign too many and then just stash a bunch of them in the minor leagues with no opportunity for them to stay in the NHL. Steven Reinprecht didn’t sign a 3 year deal to play in the AHL. He’s in the AHL, but at least 29 other teams were given the opportunity to put him on their roster and he got that opportunity to be claimed. Same with Carter.

Guy was on a one-year two-way contract. You really think he was in the long-term plans?

"We don't need the designated goon. Those fights aren't even fun to watch." -Mike Milbury

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by John Beatty on Oct 27, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

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