Outmuscled and outworked, Panthers fall to Blues 4-1
Fresh off a fun and encouraging 6-0 smashing of the Dallas Stars, the Panthers came into St. Louis with spirits high and legs rested, as head coach Kevin Dineen gave the troops a day off before facing the suddenly-hot Blues. Ken Hitchcock decided to do the opposite, and it showed, as the Blues outworked and outmuscled the Panthers en route to a 4-1 victory. Florida certainly had their chances in this game, but the work effort we saw in Dallas didn't seem to be there in the same fashion. Perhaps it was the day off, or perhaps it's Hitchcock's inspired coaching and St. Louis' physical play that wore down the Cats over the course of the game. Either way, the consistency still isn't there for Florida game in and game out, and there's no question Dineen will have the team working hard when they get back to South Florida.
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1st
Florida and St. Louis looked pretty tentative to start the game, gauging each others play style and getting used to the opposition. This was a game where neither team wanted to make the first mistake, but unfortunately for the Panthers they were the first to do so, as a Brian Campbell pass tipped off the stick of Tim Kennedy and went right to David Backes, who ripped a high wrister over Jose Theodore, giving the Blues an early lead. The Cats didn't look too energetic or ready for the first period, with a lot of sloppy passing and too much dumping and chasing. The Panthers went on the power play about eight minutes in, with Kris Versteeg drawing a holding call against Kevin Shattenkirk, but the Panthers weren't really able to get set up at all. The forwards looked lethargic to start the game and clearly didn't have their legs under them yet. St. Louis continued to pressure Florida, but the Cats finally answered the Backes goal with a tally by Mike Santorelli off a great shot through traffic that Jaroslav Halak never saw. The teams traded chances until very late in the period, when St. Louis took a rare spearing penalty, giving Florida a five minute advantage, but it turned into a four-on-four when Sean Bergenheim got called for roughing. The period finished with no more goals, but Florida would be granted a three-minute powerplay once the Bergenheim penalty finished up.
2nd
The Cats killed off the four-on-four and were granted with a three minute powerplay. Florida went into this powerplay going 0-for-11 in their last eleven chances, so scoring on this powerplay was important. That definitely didn't happen, as the Blues had an absolutely stellar penalty kill against the Panthers and had more shots than Florida managed. The Cats again looked a bit lax and shortly after the powerplay, the Panthers turned the puck over while trying to clear and Chris Porter made them pay, scoring on Theodore from in front. This was yet another game where the Panthers had immense trouble at times in clearing their own zone, and in every game where that's been the case, the Panthers gave up goals because of it. The puck went back and forth after the goal, with each team getting their opportunities until a St. Louis point shot pinballed and ended up in the net. Luckily enough for the Panthers, the T.J. Oshie goal was waived off as the refs called Oshie for goaltender interference, so the game remained 2-1. Versteeg took a penalty shortly after for boarding, but Shattenkirk came in defense of his teammate, and took a matching roughing penalty, creating another 4-on-4 situation. The Blues took a too-many-men-on-the-ice penalty (damn that's a lot of hyphens), giving the Cats a 4-on-3 chance. The Cats couldn't score on that, and the matching minors then expired, and the Panthers attempted to convert the 5-on-4 man advantage, but failed on that as well. Power play just wasn't clicking again.
3rd
The Cats started the period with some pressure, but Tomas Kopecky took an early high-sticking call, giving the Blues a chance on the powerplay. Florida had a great penalty kill though, heavily pressuring the Blues and not allowing them to set up until late in the man advantage. The Cats killed it off and got back to even strength, but Dmitry Kulikov took another penalty shortly after while defending Backes during a scrum in front of Theodore. Florida's penalty kill once again did the job, killing off the penalty without letting one up. At about halfway through the third, the Blues took advantage of an Ed Jovanovski pinch, scoring on an oddman rush and making it 3-1. Not Jovo's best decision this season; in such a close game you'd like to see him make the safer choice. Not long after, Shawn Matthias took a hooking penalty in the offensive zone, putting the Panthers back on the penalty kill. They were yet again able to kill it off, but weren't able to put much more sustained pressure on the Blues after. The Cats weren't able to get anything going and pulled Theodore late, but it backfired as Backes fires it from his own end into an empty net, sealing the deal and giving the Blues a 4-1 win.
Observations
- The Panthers went with seven defenseman and eleven forwards this game, with Marcel Goc out with a lower body injury. That meant both Erik Gudbranson and Keaton Ellerby saw ice time, but not much.
- Kulikov took a hit up high during the game, cutting his lip and possibly costing him some teeth. Let's hope Dmitry's pearly whites are okay. Despite the hit, Kulikov finished the game and looked great the whole way.
- Once again, clearing the defensive zone seemed to be a struggle at times. Not sure what makes this team forget the "high off the glass" mantra, but they seem to just forget that idea entirely at times and throw the puck up through the middle or low on the ice too often.
- St. Louis has a lineup similar to the Panthers of yore: full of names you may not recognize. Regardless, they play a hard-fought game, with plenty of big hits and dirty work in the corners. They're an imposing team to play against and it's a good thing Florida doesn't see them much. Props to Ken Hitchcock for righting the ship so far.
- The Panthers missed the net a lot in this game, and it cost them quite a bit. It was most noticeable on the powerplay, but some credit must go to St. Louis for their tenacity on the Panthers blueliners. Still, the forwards have to hit the net when given good scoring chances.
- I feel like a broken record saying this again, but Theodore looked good. His rebound control was better in this game and he played aggressively out of his net, cutting down angles very well and challenging shooters. He is on top of his game right now, and it's very encouraging to see both him and Scott Clemmensen playing so well.
- Florida was outhit in this game on every area of the ice. Against more physical teams like St. Louis, who employ a physical style so well and use it effectively on the forecheck, the Panthers seem to have a lot of trouble not only clearing their own zone, but generating speed through neutral ice and playing the puck possession game Dineen is coaching. This is a problem that will have to be addressed by the coaching staff throughout the season.
- Evgeni Dadonov didn't score tonight, but made several simple yet effective offensive plays that led to shots, penalties against, or scoring chances. He's really making the most of his time up with the big club and if he keeps it up, it's going to be tough to send him back down to a struggling San Antonio team.
- When is this team going to put together a serious win streak? It's been a long time since Panther fans can remember a win streak spanning five or more games, and this roster seems more than capable of making that happen. The more points they gather now, the less those late season losses will hurt, right?
- The powerplay was just not effective again, and downright bad at times. The Panthers are now 0-for-15 in their last three games. That needs to be rectified ASAP, as it's costing the team some points right now.
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Bag skate bag skate!
I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 7G/10A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Nov 17, 2011 10:56 PM EST reply actions
ha! Do you want me to head over to practice with my bull horn and soap box??
I hereby predict Captain Mike Weaver #43 will score 6G 20A -RCR 0G7A 11/16
Be impeccable with your word, don't take anything personally, don't make assumptions, always do your best...
This may not be an unrealistic way to approach the situation. No one, from the coaches down, seemed prepared for this game in any way. At least that’s how it looked on TV.
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by Donny Rivette on Nov 18, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
10th row seat Coach...
Everyone was a little to happy with themselves eh? its new for us to get attention, interviews, etc. Working class hero’s what they ought to be.. and I can be ok with this lapse of judgment if its the only one and it spurs a home stand spanking of opponents. That being said, if they come out of the gate Sat vs the Pens in sloppy fashion, I will get the box & bull horn out!
I hereby predict Captain Mike Weaver #43 will score 6G 20A -RCR 0G7A 11/16
Be impeccable with your word, don't take anything personally, don't make assumptions, always do your best...
I’m not sure that is warranted. I think that they need rest. They just looked tired and bruised up that whole game except Santorelli.
by Hawkseye on Nov 18, 2011 6:47 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
But good for Santorelli, he’s starting to turn it on again.
I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 7G/10A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
Find me on Twidduh And look at my Marmots
by Chris S Roberts on Nov 17, 2011 10:57 PM EST reply actions
No jolly Mario tonight

Fish, Heatles, Cats, Fins, Noles
by National Mario on Nov 17, 2011 10:58 PM EST reply actions
not much good to say. horrible turnovers on the 1st two Blues goals, missed the third one so I can’t comment. not much offense either. Gotta make the most of the home stand and start finding some more consistency. While the Panthers record looks better on paper reality is they have won 9 and lost 9. I’m not going to get to carried away this a.m. as you can’t win them all especially on the road, they have simply have to do better at home going forward.
I hope people show up so it is actually homestand advantage.
by Hawkseye on Nov 18, 2011 6:48 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Ryan
your point about putting together a serious winning streak is very good one. Despite a start good enough to keep them in the top 8 all season the Panthers have not won more than two games in a row yet. That worries me. Look what Boston is doing, erasing a very lousy start by rolling off 7 wins in a row. Are the Panthers capable of such a thing? Doesn’t look like it, Unless they start putting together some winning streaks they are going to hang around that cut off line with about 5 other teams scrambling to grab a 7th or 8th seed. They really need to reel off some wins and take advantage of the struggling Capitals. As I keep saying the simplest path to the playoffs is to win the division. The East is looking so competitive this season that could possibly be the only way they get in.
Hit me!
Florida was outhit in this game on every area of the ice. Against more physical teams like St. Louis, who employ a physical style so well and use it effectively on the forecheck, the Panthers seem to have a lot of trouble not only clearing their own zone, but generating speed through neutral ice and playing the puck possession game Dineen is coaching. This is a problem that will have to be addressed by the coaching staff throughout the season.
I honestly couldn’t catch last night’s game except for the 3rd period. Judging by what I saw and what the summary above shows, it happened again. I feel like a broken record, but Florida is simply NOT tough enough. Florida needs to hit more.
Against Winnipeg, we got hit left and right and Upshall (I think) got injured. Against Philadelphia, we got out-hit and Skille got injured. Against Dallas, AS SOON AS Dallas started to hit, they took control of the game. Luckily we scored a few minutes after and their balloon deflated, but it repeats. Apparently last night was more of the same with Kulikov getting a big hit and I saw some good hits on Weiss in the 3rd.
So what’s the issue?
- Teams will realize “Hey, if we play physical, we can dominate Florida”
- Teams get physical = Our players get injured as is kind of the case right now.
This is more of an issue, IMO, and people give it credit. We’re fast, we’re agile, etc but when a team comes to hit, the Panthers fold.
Agreed, we need a good top 9 power forward, and Gudbranson/Jovo/Ellerby need to start dropping the shoulder.
Hockey is a business, only we fans love it as a game.
Yea, of all areas of the team, the defense has to start making people pay for coming down below the faceoff dot, especially in the corners and behind the net. The offense isn’t predicated off of forechecking as much as a solid puck possession style of play to gain zone entry, so don’t expect to see them heavily forechecking every game. The third and fourth lines should be doing a bit more forechecking than they are to wear down opposing D-men, but you likely won’t see this team play that style of hockey offensively most of the year, as it doesn’t quite fit the lineup.
I disagree. I think the starters not playing last night is what hurt the Panthers. Also, if skille was not 100 percent, he should not have played.
by Hawkseye on Nov 18, 2011 11:41 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
When utilizing their collective speed, the opponent’s hits don’t connect. This was not the case last night.
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by Donny Rivette on Nov 18, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Shoulda never waived Ryan Carter.
I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 7G/10A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
Find me on Twidduh And look at my Marmots
by Chris S Roberts on Nov 18, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
There are plenty of guys in his place that could step up and do the same as he, but seem unwilling to do so. And honestly, in Carters last few games here (preseason or otherwise) the physical play seemed to be fading as compared to last season.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzhkPfZwk20&feature=fvwrel
we can always call up these panthers to provide some toughness
OT but...
Good for a laugh, is that Jovo in the picture dated 96
THAT is funny.
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by Donny Rivette on Nov 18, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
The Onion loves to hate on the NHL
But this one still made me laugh
http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/popular-new-directv-package-offers-zero-nhl-games,26472/
by Robert Wright on Nov 18, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
As of Wednesday, NHL ShutOut was DirecTV’s most popular new product. Sports bars are impatiently waiting the introduction of NHL ShutOutPro, which will allow proprietors to block hockey games on up to 28 televisions at a time. A solid 68 percent of new subscribers list the ability to block out hockey as their primary reason for choosing DirecTV. The company is considering making the package the foundation of a new deluxe sports programming bundle that would give viewers the ability to block not just the NHL, but MLS and the WNBA as well.
Simply awesome.
Litter Box Cats - Your tarp-free Florida Panthers Colossus
by Donny Rivette on Nov 18, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Bring up Yonkman for those tougher games to handle reprisals for us hitting them. They hit us and then they beat us up. Make them pay to play. Send them home all banged up once in a while. This has unfortunately become a big player’s game. If you want to compete you must have big durable players. And that includes the goalie also. Right now Theodore is the fourth smallest goalie in the NHL. We are losing players almost every game. I don’t see other teams’ losing players every game. http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.htm?fetchKey=20122ALLGAGALL&sort=player.weight&viewName=goalieBios
I disagree. Every team goes though a few weeks with injuries. It has nothing to do with smallish players. I will say this, I would like to see Gudbranson and Ellerby hit more each game. Also, I’ve noticed that there are few replacements for skille or Bradley in the AHL. I think this is by far the most urgent need for the panthers. They could use Carter back.
by Hawkseye on Nov 18, 2011 11:44 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Yonkman will never play with Florida unless there are two blue line injuries. And even then…
I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 7G/10A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
Find me on Twidduh And look at my Marmots
by Chris S Roberts on Nov 18, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions

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