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Blackhawks top Panthers in shootout; Tallon sees past and future

SUNRISE, FL - NOVEMBER 3: Patrick Kane #88 of the Chicago Blackhawks and Jack Skille #12 of the Florida Panthers skate into the corner after a loose puck on November 3, 2011 at the BankAtlantic Center in Sunrise, Florida. (Photo by Joel Auerbach/Getty Images)

There's been a lot said about the roster turnover of the Panthers this season, and probably the most common is that the Panthers have become the "Blackhawks of the South." GM Dale Tallon won a Cup with the Chicago Blackhawks two seasons ago, and several of those players have now followed him to Florida to try and repeat the success they had in the Windy City. Their former mates marched into Sunrise Thursday night and walked away with a 3-2 shootout win, and despite the loss, this was an introspective game for the Panther organization, as they were basically able to see the Tallon Blueprint several years after the construction ended. There are many similarities between these two teams, and though Chicago walked away with the win, the Panthers future looks awfully similar to the Chicago team that was once like the Panthers: bleak, hopeless and without a winning culture.

Thanks to Tallon's work so far, there's a very good chance that's going to change soon.

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1st

The Panthers came out with speed and generated some early shots, but a really sloppy defensive exchange between Dmitry Kulikov and Mike Weaver led to a goal by Jonathan Toews. Not a good way to start; this could have easily been avoided. Florida immediately responded with some scoring chances but Chicago quickly countered by playing a very solid puck possession game. Matt Bradley and Jamal Mayers had a quick tussle after Bradley laid into Mayers by the bench, blowing him clean off his feet. For the next ten minutes or so, the occasional scoring chance for each team was the highlight, as there was a lot of neutral zone play. Chicago had a few shifts where the Toews line was able to get sustained pressure, but no really high quality scoring chances came of it. Sami Lepisto was called for the first penalty with eight minutes left in the period, giving the Cats their first chance on the man advantage, but they were unable to get around the solid penalty killing of the Hawks. Florida tilted the ice in their favor to close out the period, but went into the locker room with a one-goal deficit.

2nd

The Blackhawks came out firing in the second, but the Cats held their ground until a rush by the Hawks generated a goal by Marian Hossa. Patrick Kane showed great patience on the play, waiting for Tomas Kopecky to pull away from Hossa so he could hit the open passing lane. Daniel Carcillo nearly had a third goal for the Hawks, but rang it off the iron. Markstrom was lucky on this one, as he was off his angle, as was Kulikov, who got caught out of position after a line change. Chicago then pretty much controlled the pace of play for the next five minutes or so, peppering Markstrom with shots. The young netminder responded after the Hossa goal, shutting down the opposition's scoring chances and controlling his rebounds well enough to prevent too many opportunities. The teams traded chances until late in the period, when Stephen Weiss scored his fifth of the season off a nice passing sequence from linemates Kris Versteeg and Tomas Fleischmann. Weiss managed to control the puck through traffic and pop it past Corey Crawford after Fleischmann laid a nice pass to Weiss in the seam. This line has been money and they were again tonight.

3rd

Early on, Kulikov had a great scoring chance, but Crawford stoned him and started a bit of a scrum as Kulikov got in a bit too close for Crawford's comfort. Because of this, Kulikov went to the box, giving the Blackhawks their first powerplay of the game. Luckily for the Panthers, the Hawks have one of the worst powerplay percentages in the league, and the Panthers were able to kill it off easily. The Cats almost gave the Hawks another powerplay, but good old Micheal Frolik got called for diving, along with Versteeg getting called for holding, creating a 4-on-4 situation for two minutes. Chicago pretty much dominated the 4-on-4, but the Panthers responded after the penalties with some great scoring opportunities. Crawford was great for Chicago in this game, and there's no question they made the right call letting Antti Niemi walk. The second line of Upshall, Kopecky and Santorelli put on some heavy pressure during the period and Crawford stonewalled them multiple times. For the majority of the rest of the period, the Panthers outshot and outchanced the Blackhawks, but were unable to convert until late in the third, when Ed Jovanovski redirects the puck off a Kulikov point shot. This tied it up and sent both teams to an overtime period.

OT

The Panthers put on some early pressure, but Chicago countered quickly and Markstrom stood tall. He managed to stone Dave Bolland early on, and Florida then responded with some great shots from Kopecky and Marcel Goc. Crawford was again on top of the task, and the teams traded more chances to finish out the OT period, including a Patrick Sharp breakaway that Markstrom shut down. It's a bit of a wonder that neither team scored during the five-minute frame, considering just how many shots and chances there were.

Shootout

Panthers opened with Kopecky, stopped by Crawford.
Blackhawks opened with Toews, stopped by Markstrom.
Panthers then sent out Goc, stopped by Crawford.
Blackhawks countered with Bolland, stopped by Markstrom.
Panthers try with Fleischmann, stopped by the glove of Crawford.
Blackhawks win it with a sweet backhand move by Kane.

Observations

  • Considered by most to be a strength of the Panthers before the season started, the defensive corps looks shaky thus far at times. Lots of unnecessary turnovers, losing battles in the corners more than they should, and being caught out of position a lot. Sure, they're basically playing two rookies in Erik Gudbranson and Keaton Ellerby, but there needs to be more consistency. Weaver's turnover to start the game was huge and put the Panthers in a hole immediately. Seems like Gord needs to do some screaming, perhaps? If any unit seems to need to "gel," it's the D.
  • Scottie Upshall is playing harder and it showed, as he generated five of the fifteen shots in the first period for the Panthers. The team really needs some secondary scoring, and Upshall is going to be counted on to provide that. He's definitely not going to be a 30-goal scorer, but the Panthers need him to pot at least 15-20 this year to justify that big deal he got in the offseason.
  • Chicago is one of the best teams in the Western Conference, let alone the NHL. The Panthers managed to gain a point against them, all while not skating very hard for 60 minutes. Imagine what the Cats could do with a full effort from everyone in this game.
  • Markstrom had some great saves again tonight; neither goal was his fault. He got lucky on the Carcillo post shot, where he was off his angle, but otherwise this was another great effort from the rookie. He continues to make the case to be the starter this year and beyond.
  • Keaton Ellerby looks rusty. He's got all the tools to be a starter, but with Gudbranson staying up with the team this year, you have to think Ellerby is going to either get moved via trade, or continue to stay cozy in the press box. Can't necessarily blame the organization though; Gudbranson has the higher upside of the two.
  • The Blackhawks have one of the best forechecking teams in the NHL. Watching the pressure they apply as the opposition crosses their own blueline is magical. Hopefully Dineen is taking notes and not staring at Joel Quenville's mustache. Alright, maybe just a peek.
  • Toews is a fantastic player, one of the best two-way players in the game. Let's hope Jonathan Huberdeau can mature into at least half of the player Toews is. If so, the Panthers are going to be very good when he stays up with the big club. Probably too early for comparisons, but hey... food for thought, right?
  • Doesn't matter how long he plays, who he plays for, or how much money he makes: Hossa is one of the best players in the NHL at protecting the puck. If you're a hockey player, watch game footage of him and take note of how he does it; it'll help your game.
  • Sean Bergenheim looked good in his return from injury. The Panthers need him to become a scoring threat on the second or third line, as the team's secondary scoring has been sorely lacking. He's one of the more creative offensive players on the team and is capable of becoming a difference maker in each game.
  • The Cats are becoming a clutch team, despite the OT losses. They are now outscoring their opposition 15-7 in the third. If they can cut out the early goals against in the first period, they should be able to easily close out games.
  • Despite the OT losses, the Cats are getting points. How do playoff teams make the playoffs? By piling up points no matter how they get them. Even with the two OT losses the last two games, the Cats are ahead of Carolina in the division, and only two points behind the Caps (who have two games in hand). Florida still sits at fifth in the East as well.
  • Shootout needs work. Just sayin.

Next up: Sunday evening the Cats face off against division rival Tampa Bay at home in Sunrise. The last time they played the Bolts at home was the Cats home opener, with Florida winning in a shootout. Florida hasn't lost to Tampa Bay yet this season; let's hope that trend continues. There's nothing quite like an angry Guy Boucher.

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Need Dadonov. Screw Bradley, we dont need him. Also, its still Marky time!!!

by Colt1235 on Nov 4, 2011 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

What has Dadonov done in SA that merits a call-up?

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by panthersfan27 on Nov 4, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

No clue, but what has bradley done in the NHL to merit playing time? We obviously need the scoring help

by Colt1235 on Nov 4, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s played a solid forechecking game and generally has filled his role.

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by panthersfan27 on Nov 4, 2011 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bradley is non issue. We need guys like Upshall, Santorelli, Kopecky, Matthias, Skill etc. to start scoring some goals.

by Todd Little on Nov 4, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

He doesn’t provide much offense, but as a 4th line guy he throws the weight around and provides a physical presence more than anyone else on the team (I.E. his hit and fight with Jamal Mayers last night). He has been doing that all season. You need/want a guy like that on your checking line.

by Evan Waldman on Nov 4, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Could not agree more. Bradley is a team first guy. Will stand up to, and for, anyone. Terrific banger and forechecker despite not being the biggest guy out there.

Besides, what good would Dadanov do playing 6 minutes a night. So where do you put him and who do you demote to the fourth line?

by madcat78 on Nov 4, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

That next game is a Sunday matinee against Tampa, just fyi.

by kSelvig on Nov 4, 2011 12:12 AM EDT reply actions  

all these 1 goal games are starting to remind me a lot of last season

by eliran2 on Nov 4, 2011 12:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Those all ended in regulation losses, at least these are making it to a shoot out. I think we played almost 20 games in last year before even seeing OT.

by Robert Wright on Nov 4, 2011 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

That sounds about right.

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by Donny Rivette on Nov 4, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Florida is a team that just needs that tiny bit and they can be on a hot streak. I like the play shown when they were down and tied it. Also the effort made as regulation time was winding down to hold the fort because of the Senators and Jets games where they couldn’t shut it down. Shootout does need work.

Fish, Heatles, Cats, Fins, Noles

by National Mario on Nov 4, 2011 12:40 AM EDT reply actions  

It’s a plus that we got 1 point unlike last year we would have lost in regulation. The D and the Shootout need work. Hopefully Dineen scratching Guds last night will set Guds on a tear. I also think Huby will be a great playmaker/finisher when he comes up.

Shooooooooot!!!!!!!!

by jmslavick on Nov 4, 2011 7:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Another game the Panthers should have won and another game where no one on lines 2-4 scored a goal. It’s nice they picked up a point but the point there not picking up in these games could very well come back to haunt them come April.

by Todd Little on Nov 4, 2011 8:12 AM EDT reply actions  

food for thought

Ryan, it is way too early for comparisons but I’d like to think Huberdeau has the potential to be a better points producer than Toews. It’s hard for me to think he’ll be a better two way player but easy for me to think he’ll be at least half the player Toews is. That’s a slam dunk imo. I think Hubs will be more like Kane than Toews.

by Todd Little on Nov 4, 2011 8:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Yea I think he’ll be a hybrid of the two. He has more offensive flair than Toews, but will need to become a more rounded player in the NHL as compared to juniors to be a star. If he ends up like either of those two, we’re looking at a great player.

Definitely too early for comparisons, but it’s fun to think about nonetheless :)

by Ryan Meier on Nov 4, 2011 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes

shootout needs work and they need to quit giving up the first goal of the game.

by Todd Little on Nov 4, 2011 8:19 AM EDT reply actions  

I think Jovo has been reading the LBC posts about his performance of late……..Now this is the Jovo we know and love!

by LAUSMAN on Nov 4, 2011 8:43 AM EDT reply actions  

mindless musings

All things considered, I don’t think the Panthers played too badly. Being down 2-0 to the best team in the west (tied with EDM) and coming back to steal a point is a positive. Chicago’s just one of those teams that can put mistakes in the net and the Panthers only made a few.

I think FL’s shot count, while maybe not inflated, is misleading. It seems a lot of their shots are hitting goalies in the logo. Maybe that’s just my perspective. I don’t want them to start picking corners or anything but they need someone in front more often and they need to aim a little less when there’s no one screening the goalie.

Congrats to Chicago. I hope they win in regulation tonight up in Tampa Bay. Speaking of, I think Bradley needs to be in divisional games but not in out of divsion games. He’s a spark plug but that was kind of misplaced in this game – these teams meet too infrequently for there to be bad blood. I would put him in for Tampa on Sunday but in the Chicago game I would have played someone who could take more minutes and provide more offense (Dadonov?).

by jimmyh71 on Nov 4, 2011 8:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Agree on everything Jimmy…….but Bradley was not the instigator of this bout.

by LAUSMAN on Nov 4, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like Bradley A LOT.. I would prefer to see him on the winning end of some fist-o-cuffs or just stick to crushing guys against the boards.

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by RPC on Nov 4, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

JOVO

Finally!! I still want to know how is it that lines 2-4 aren’t posting points?!?!?

I hereby predict Captain Mike Weaver #43 will score 6G 20A -RCR 0G4A 11/1
Be impeccable with your word, don't take anything personally, don't make assumptions, always do your best...

by RPC on Nov 4, 2011 8:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Booth had lots of shots on goal, see what good that did for him with Tallon.

by swissdude on Nov 4, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

we all want to know

by Todd Little on Nov 4, 2011 9:01 AM EDT reply actions  

I still think that the 2nd and 3rd lines are producing offense. At this point, it’s pucks going into the net that is the only issue. Seems like some players are snakebitten at the moment like Skille and Upshall.

The Ghost of David Nemirovsky

by panthersfan27 on Nov 4, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually the 4th line is too.

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by panthersfan27 on Nov 4, 2011 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

the shots on goal are nice but you can take as many shots as you want – if they don’t go in it doesn’t really matter. Guys have got to start finishing.

by Todd Little on Nov 4, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Marky kept us in the shootout, but our guys had nothing but weak shots for Crawfish.

I saw we do like the Penguins and have shootout practices all the time.

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Twitter - @sdiaz6215

by Sdiaz6215 on Nov 4, 2011 9:18 AM EDT reply actions  

I saw we do like the Penguins and have shootout practices all the time.

I must say that was one of the more interesting aspects of that 24/7 special. Getting inside the head of Bylsma a little bit. I have to admit, I am not a Penguins fan, but I am definitely a Dan Bylsma fan. The guy is a friggin super hero if you ask me, he gets ridiculous levels of performance out of a roster with no Crosby and Malkin, it’s no wonder that he was able to get them a cup.

Hockey is a business, only we fans love it as a game.

by JDMorris on Nov 4, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thought we played well over all last night. Hope Bradley wins one soon. One thing that really bothered me that I haven’t seen before was the extensive advertising posting on the scoreboard area where SOG and penalty info is displayed. In the 60 minutes I sat in row 18 I only saw the stats displayed twice. It may have been shown more but I have never really had to give up waiting for the info to show up after exentended periods of watching the bobbing and waving IKEA logo in place of the stats. Oh yeah, the announcer still sucks. Just saying…………………………………..

by trapazoid on Nov 4, 2011 9:35 AM EDT reply actions  

HOLY COW!

I could not agree more! During the Winnipeg game I noticed that the Lexus advertising circle under the scoreboard was gone (has anyone read or heard of the reason they removed it?) and that the four corners of the scoreboard usually reserved for Shots On Goal, Score, and Penalty information were displaying the Party City Halloween logo ALL NIGHT.

And then against Chicago, the four corners were displaying the IKEA logo! We all know the root of this malfeasance! He needs to realize that this is absurd and we, the fans (remember us), are SICK of it! It was utterly frustrating to have to strain to see the SOG count in the endzones on the new upper LED ring.

Speaking of these rings… I have been finding it to be a major distraction that there is CONSTANT flashing advertising during the games, even while the puck is in play. I looked up the other night and saw THREE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF ADVERTISING, and they were all FLASHING and/or SCROLLING! It would be bad enough if it was advertising for ONE product or company, but the simultaneous flashing ads were all for different companies! It’s distracting, frustrating, and thoroughly embarrassing…

by VanMurph on Nov 5, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Panthers got to win against Tampa or this is becomes a bad homestand

by Todd Little on Nov 4, 2011 9:50 AM EDT reply actions  

1st Goal not on Weaver

“Weaver’s turnover to start the game was huge and put the Panthers in a hole immediately. Seems like Gord needs to do some screaming, perhaps? If any unit seems to need to “gel,” it’s the D."

Cannot in any way fault Weaver for this turnover. It was a bonehead play by Kulikov to throw the puck weakly towards the center of the ice in the defensive zone while being heavily pressured no less. Common sense says you play it off the boards and out of the zone. Especially against Chicago with thier speed and forecheck pressure. Sorry but Weaver gets a pass here. He never had a chance on that play.

by madcat78 on Nov 4, 2011 10:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Watch the replay a little closer: http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?hlg=20112012,2,172&event=FLA71

Weaver had it on his stick, and seemed completely unaware he was being pressured, having his head down staring at the puck. The pass by Kulikov wasn’t all that weak and had Weaver been aware of what was going on in regards to pressure, he could’ve flipped it into the corner.

I will agree that it wasn’t the best choice by Kulikov to throw it into the middle of the ice under pressure though. That’s something you teach kids in junior to avoid.

by Ryan Meier on Nov 4, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Having seen that goal again, I agree. Weaver just had a pretty bad night all around.

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by panthersfan27 on Nov 4, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

You could also argue that Skille left his man to soon on that play as he was with Toewes then peeled off. Regardless off all that, the proper play in that situation is up the boards, in this case to Sturm, and out of the zone. You do not throw a puck to the middle while being pressured like that. As you said, they teach these things in juniors. Kuli has to take some heat for a very poor decision.

Also, flip to what corner. Weaver had just spun around to recieve the pass. So with his back to the corners, he was supposed to magically flip it there. I guess I am missing the logic with that arguement. The fault lies with the original cause of the turnover. Kulikov is backskating the entiire time. He can clearly see the pressure. Weaver was skating hard forward to get into position to take a pass and had just spun around when Towes got there. No way he knew Towes was breathing down his neck. At this point Kuli inexplicably let his man blow right by him, creating a two on one. Weaver is in front of Toewes when they got back to the net. Kuli failed to recover quick enough. By the time he gets back, the pass is already off the stick of Brunette as Kuli is reaching out in desperation.

You could also argue Kuli could have played it hard around the boards to Skille on the other side. There were clearly better options then the one he choose.

by madcat78 on Nov 4, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea I think they were both at fault, but Weaver had a second to throw it to the wall if he realized he was in trouble.

Gotta give props to the Hawks forecheck on that play and throughout the game; they are very effective.

by Ryan Meier on Nov 4, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

now that i cannot argue with at all. it was a clinic on forechecking. but having said that, it was great to see the cats handle it well, for the most part, and dictate play for large portions of this game. very encouraged by what i see this year with this team. for the first time since a fellow named bure laced em up in south florida, i dont feel like my center ice package was a waste of money.

by madcat78 on Nov 4, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good call playing Ellerby instead of Gudbranson, Ellerby is clearly the better player right now.

by pukeoncops on Nov 4, 2011 10:53 AM EDT reply actions  

I was pretty impressed with Ellerby’s play. He should definitely be getting more games.

by angellen on Nov 4, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Certainly well rested ;)

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by Donny Rivette on Nov 4, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t really see all that much more out of him than Gudbranson would have exhibited last night, except a bit more speed.

by Ryan Meier on Nov 4, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I also agree with this. Ellerby is solid, but he was clearly rusty.

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by panthersfan27 on Nov 4, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, and you certainly can’t blame Ellerby for that, any player would be after sitting as much as he has.

by Ryan Meier on Nov 4, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I also agree with this. Ellerby is solid, but he was clearly rusty.

No Rusty was in the pressbox he he he…

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by JDMorris on Nov 4, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone else noticing lack of out of town scores?

they used to have them on the corners of the bottom LED for the first few games, now nothing… annoying! especially because i dont get cell reception in the billboard.

by stopdropandbreathe on Nov 4, 2011 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m not sure anyone does. The stats they gave during game 1 have diminished as well.

by OldDave on Nov 4, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

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