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NHL Trade Deadline 2011: Would Panthers' Tallon consider trading Booth and Weiss?

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 Whenever numbers 9 or 10 take to the ice, excitement is instilled. Stephen Weiss and David Booth are two of the most notable players on the Florida Panthers roster, and arguably the two biggest guns the Cats have on offense (Weiss sits 1st in points with 40, while Booth is tied for 1st in goals with 17). So why is it, that in the prime of their careers - and on a team starved for goals - that legitimate news sources from TSN to ESPN are speaking about the probability that Weiss and Booth are both in play this trade deadline? Could Sunday's 2-1 loss against the New Jersey Devils be the last time we see either player in a Panthers uniform? Will that small bit of excitement be lost? Is it possible that the last two pieces of the "Sunrise Express" will ride out quietly into the sunset tomorrow? Here's why Booth and Weiss might have played their last game as Panthers.

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It's hard to imagine two high-end skilled players - who wish to stay in Florida - not being part of GM Dale Tallon's "blueprint". However, if the plan as Assistant GM Mike Santos said is to turn around the team in 3-4 years, it's not completely inconceivable to think that Booth and Weiss just don't fit into the long term plans-- after all, in 4 years time Booth will be 30 and Weiss 31; in the "New NHL", young kids rule. By the time this team begins to turn a corner in accordance to the plan, these two coveted players will be entering the decline of their careers, and while it's not out of the norm to see 30 year olds (or 43 year olds, hello Boston's Mark Recchi) playing key roles (7 of the top 30 NHL scorers are over 30) it's just not that likely. So if Tallon were to get the most out either of these players in progressing the plan, he'd need to sell them at their absolute highest point in their careers. For many experts, that point is now.

By dealing away Booth and or Weiss on Monday, Tallon and Santos would be fast-tracking the rebuild considerably (from the return, to salary dumping to just opening up roster spots).  While this move would undoubtedly have fans in a remarkable frenzy it's a move that has to be heavily considered if this rebuild is to be any different then the half-baked "rebuilds" of the past; to be truly good, you have to be truly bad. Earlier this week Tallon spoke to NHL.com , stating "It's a lot easier to turn a franchise around in a hurry when you're picking lottery picks than when you're picking 14th." He added "Having said that, you can't take the fire and edge out of a group that, to me, has given its all every night. We've had 30 one-goal games. If we would have had a little bit of luck here and there we'd be in a different position, but that's just the way it is. Obviously when you know you're selling it's easier to get involved and get it done quicker." It's a sad reality for this organization, but dumping high end, big salary players is a trend that will likely be continued if Tallon is serious about his rebuild. 

Both players have relativley affordable long term deals that make them more than just rentals which in today's cap-driven scope makes both players attractive buys, and considering they are in the prime of their careers and have been in the upper echelon of NHL production for a few years now, it's no surprise that Weiss and Booth are hot commodities for a number of teams.

When looking at Tallon's track record, it's apparent that The Architect is willing to make big, controversial moves to strip apart the team he has inherited. During his first deadline appearance in Chicago, Tallon shipped off Tyler Arnason, a young promising forward who in his previous season led the Hawks in scoring. The gamble proved correct. Only time will tell if Tallon will consider moving the faces of his franchise but don't be surprised if it does happen... and if it does, the pitchforks and torches will be at the ready.

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its always possible…there are rumors that Tallon spoke highly about reasoner and an extension with addition of being a captain candidate hence the “A” on his jersey tonight. That can open up rumor on possible weiss being moved then again who knows.

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by SNOOP97DAWG on Feb 27, 2011 10:33 PM EST reply actions  

He also specifically mentioned Weiss, Bryan Allen and Mike Weaver in that same press conference as being leaders of the team. Make of that what you will.

I think Weiss isn’t going anywhere unless a) someone seriously overpays and/or b) too many guys Weiss likes are sent off and he asks to be traded.

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by John Beatty on Feb 28, 2011 8:16 AM EST up reply actions  

i guess if you wanna do the whole rebuild right it would be smart to trade booth and weiss for some promising young players… considering the return that we’ve gotten on the previous few trades I would rather see us keep them

by peterbiz09 on Feb 27, 2011 10:39 PM EST reply actions  

i agree sometimes i feel Booth is damaged goods with the concussions

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by SNOOP97DAWG on Feb 27, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Trading one of them for some high draft picks or top prospects seems fine if the return is good enough. . . but certainly not both. The rebuilding process needs a solid blend of veterans to lead the team and youth for the longevity of the success.

With that said, I would prefer Weiss to stay out of the two. Has been consistent in his ability to produce points and not get his head knocked off.

by milhouse on Feb 27, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

All about the return.

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 27, 2011 11:50 PM EST reply actions  

+1

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by SNOOP97DAWG on Feb 27, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

This is true, but what would you expect to get for Weiss and Booth?

Picks and prospects are good and all, but I don’t think an Oilers-style rebuild is the way to go.

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by ToddtheFox on Feb 28, 2011 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

IMO, both have been underwhelming this season, but I say that with a caveat. Both have put up some decent points while routinely double-shifting and playing with new linemates on an almost nightly basis, but there’s been no comfort zone for either player. Just a terrible scenario for both. The effort has been there night after night.

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 28, 2011 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

If Booth wasn’t putting up large numbers of shots, I’d be worried about him. But many nights this year he’s been triple shifted, much less double shifted.

Same goes for Weiss. They are part of the solution though if someone offers a once in a lifetime deal for each, go for it.

by panthersfan27 on Feb 28, 2011 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

A once in a lifetime deal would have to be the only thing, Weiss is the type of player you can build a team around.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Feb 28, 2011 3:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree, but after watching that game last night, egads if they trade both. That game last night was borderline unwatchable.

by badger737 on Feb 28, 2011 8:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Good read. Thanks for the post.

by Holy Jokinen on Feb 27, 2011 11:58 PM EST reply actions  

Cross-posted on the pre-deadline thread
Florida Panthers’ David Booth and Steve Weiss are interesting players because Booth still has four years left on his contract at 4.25 million and Weiss has two years at 4 million and 4.1 million they are both talented, offensive hockey players. The situation in Florida is that there are going to be lots of bodies flying out the door. However these two contract players are interesting because the sense is that General Manager Dale Tallon inherited these players and he isn’t finished stripping this organization down to the bare bones.

McKenzie’s blog here.

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 28, 2011 12:12 AM EST reply actions  

Booth is such a nice guy...

Everyone loves David….but he doesn’t skate with that wreckless abandon anymore…..He seems to be playing cautiously…which isn’t the game that made him the DAVID BOOTH … one of the most exciting players in the NHL to watch…..I really hope he regains that form again…no matter what team he is playing for…Good Luck David.

by LAUSMAN on Feb 28, 2011 8:41 AM EST reply actions  

I agree he skates more cautiously now, but also Booth’s special skill is his speed and teams have learned to neutralize that by pushing him outside and to the corners. Until he or his coach come up with a counter to that, his speed is borderline useless.

by badger737 on Feb 28, 2011 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Solid piece man- linked to it in my TDL live chat. Everyone is praying for Weiss to magically appear in a Flaming C. Nobody is expecting it.

by ArikJames on Feb 28, 2011 8:50 AM EST reply actions  

Dreger and Kypreos reporting that Weiss has agreed to waive his NMC only to go to the Leafs.

Dreger reporting that the Leafs are not planning to make an offer.

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by John Beatty on Feb 28, 2011 9:06 AM EST reply actions  

To the leafs? Bleargh.

If Weiss or Booth are moved, I hope a) the Panthers get PAID… and b) it’s to the Western conference. I think Booth would flourish out there if he can keep from getting a third concussion.

by jimmyh71 on Feb 28, 2011 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the WC might be the best option for Booth. I can see him doing better out there.

I don’t think Weiss is going out there. Apparently, he won’t waive his NMC to go to the Kings.

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by John Beatty on Feb 28, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Especially if he gets to play on Kopitar’s wing – it’ll certainly open up some ice for him to use.

I would honestly applaud Weiss using his NMC to stay here – because I’m still convinced we will not get equal value for him back. If he wants to stay, even when Pete is not retained, let him stay.

by badger737 on Feb 28, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

If he goes to the leafs. I hope Sondre Olden is one of the pieces coming back. He needs to bulk up, but if and when he does he’s going to be a great player.

by Craig Fischer on Feb 28, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Morning everyone!

Anything interesting on the trade front?

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by Chris S Roberts on Feb 28, 2011 11:29 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

hey

i agree sometimes i feel Booth is damaged goods with the concussions

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by worldcup on Feb 28, 2011 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

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