Panthers: Off-season variables, potential, and concerns created by the Trade Deadline
"We added a great number of picks and got younger and really solidified our future. The future is most important for us." These were the words from Florida Panthers GM Dale Tallon after the dust settled from Monday's busy Trade Deadline. He couldn't have been more right. It's all about the future. The moves he made have allowed for this upcoming summer to be vitally important, perhaps the most pivotal period in club history. With so many factors, ranging from the Sunrise Sports Entertainment's wallet, to the blueprint, to RFA's and UFA's, not to mention the upcoming CBA, the next few months have the potential to be incredibly beneficial to the success of the franchise, or horrifically tragic. While Tallon has set this team up for success with all of this potental money in the off-season, don't go buying your streamers and confetti just yet.
While the current CBA is a maze of information - even those who crafted it have professed they don't understand it all, it is believed that the recent salary shedding of Cory Stillman, Bryan McCabe, Bryan Allen, Dennis Wideman, Chris Higgins, and Radek Dvorak has not only set the table for a wild summer but now qualified the Panthers for increased revenue distribution which will pay increased dividends into the millions and help SSE overcome any operational losses it might have endured throughout the season and if 2011 will be anything like 2010, which saw the club's operating income loss fall to a staggering $9.6 million (before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization) the Cats will need that money.
The moves themselves are built around the idea of addition (in terms of a bigger slice of revenue pie) by subtraction - the Panthers weren't making a very good case for the playoffs this season, and as such the moves in theory help the team down the road - in more ways then one. Roster spots opened up, the team got younger, picks were acquired and perhaps most importantly, money was saved and thus earned.
The move presumably lowered Florida's salary level to below that of the predetermined league average as part of The Player Compensation Cost Redistribution system (Article 49 of the CBA), which enables the Panthers to snap their fingers and receive additional money from the rich teams around the league-- including the New York Rangers, Washington Capitals, and Vancouver Canucks who received some of the noteable now-ex-Panthers. The great rapper Biggie Smalls said it best, "Mo money, Mo problems" and right now with the current economic landscape dictated by the CBA, the less fortunate NHL teams are making out like bandits as Gary Bettman and his merry men of thieves, steal from the rich and give to the poor.
The Player Compensation Cost Redistribution System is designed to cause certain high-revenue clubs to contribute even more of their revenues toward the payment of Player Compensation redistributing a certain portion of the revenues of such Clubs to the lower-grossing, small market Clubs so that such lower-grossing, small market Clubs may be able to, and elect to, spend more on Player Compensation. The Player Compensation Cost Redistribution System is intended to enhance the ability of all Clubs to be financially competitive with one another. The moves on deadline day have lowered the Panthers minimum team player compensation so that the organization is entitled to receive increased distribution.
To some degree the salary dump is an all to familiar story for Florida fans as money and operating costs have been the bane of the Panthers existence for a number of years now, and because of it, the Cats often play "short-handed" from an economical sense, as they constantly square off against teams with vastly superior salary totals, making the quest for wins all the more difficult. The CBA was intented to help small market teams in this regard and while it has-- the Panthers actually had their best wins to cost player ratio the year before the lockout. Making a strong case for changes.
Hopefully the new CBA, which will begin to take form at the end of the 2011-12 season, further corrects the problems and money no longer dictates parity on the ice. This however is one of the least talked-about potential problems concerning the Panthers latest set of moves. Whatever happens concerning the new CBA has the possibility of completely changing the economic landscape of the game in the same way the current CBA did. It's more (especially with the way recent talks regarding some of the bigger sporting leagues have gone) than possible that player contracts or contract types and stipulations become more affordable the year after Tallon has an oppurtunity to make a big splash. While all of that money might be burning a hole in the Panthers organizations pocket, it might be smarter to limit long term spending and gamble on the new CBA.
The Panthers have created substantial cap space moving forward with only $16.7 million guaranteed to be issued next season but that presumed mandatory 30 million in spending to reach the salary floor as Elliot Friedman reported doesn't have to be a financial burden to ownership. They don't have to spend that 30 million to reach the salary floor. They have to achieve that figure in a caphit. Which means smart team building can see the conservation of some money by focusing on heavily tilted salaries and bonus laden contracts.
Looking forward, unfortunately for the Panthers, the upcoming free-agent class has developed to be less than promising as some of the bigger names have allready signed big deals to stay with their current teams; Such is the luck of the Cats. It might not even matter which big names were available either, especially when you consider the blueprint which is still 3-4 years away from completion, not to mention a lot of that money is going to get tied up in RFA contacts as many key young players will be up for a new contact in the summer - by the time deals are set for players like Keaton Ellerby, Mike Santorelli, Jack Skille, Shawn Matthias, Michal Repik, and Niclas Bergfors - plus the presumed re-signing of Vokoun, and all of a sudden that big chunk of change Tallon has amassed looks a lot smaller.
As nice as it might be to imagine the Panthers finally spending some money, It's more likely to see the team barely float above the salary floor, capitalizing on the increased revenue sharing for a number of seasons until the young team is ready to legitimately compete for the Stanley Cup. The question then becomes, will limited spending effect the 14,000 average attendance goals that also influence revenue sharing? Dale Tallon and company are about to walk the high-wire without a net to catch them.
From a financial standpoint the recent departures of these veteran players will have major ramifications on the bottom line, which in turn could fuel increased spending for upcoming seasons. Then again it might just be a cost-saving measure that will be exploited annually from now on to limit the harm the Florida Panthers have on the rest of the SSE portfolio. Whatever happens though, this summer is going to be integral in the development of the Florida Panthers-- where any move has the potential to be pivotal or be scrutinized in retrospect by the media because of a number of variables. It will be interesting to see what Dale Tallon and company do, but whatever happens the moves made at this seasons trade deadline will have a rippling effect for years.
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"Yoar" "MUCK" should not be on TV
A long rebuild not possible in Florida…They are going to have to do this quick. Two years is about all the fans will be able to take. The best case scenario for Florida is to do a smart but quick rebuild.
Put Yormack on ice with a rat trap for his mouth:
Reality check – not many panther fans left, most are sick of it. I felt sick to my stomach hearing Yormack comments last night, and then his little pout with George Richards on Twitter. YOrmack is just gross. Keep him in marketing, and quit trying to make him the face on TV. . Most fans dont care about Yormack, he needs to stay in his office and sell banners/ads/whatever. Just shut him up.He is a giant turnoff to all fans and probably hurt season ticket sales by his comments last night.
*Leave the blue l.ine and goalie situation the way it is. Add one PP dman veteran in offseason to lead the blue line kids. With some luck, the blue line will be adequate in a year.
*Go crazy on other teams RFAs: Outbid teams on their RFAs, if you lose, you still drove up the cost of a player. This means a team will have less money to spend on UFAs.
- Be smart with UFA contracts (no trade clauses = NO WAY!), make one to two year deals like crazy. I think the Panthers should concentrate their UFA efforts on Laich and Leno.
- Trades: Try to trade for someone such as Gaborik or maybe Semin and hope that they can produce (lets face it, these are the guys that will be available – maybe a new coach can push them to be consistent and produce).
- Existing RFA: start working on resigning them to long term deals – aka Ellerby and Kuli’s deals come up soon. No more Bouw siutations.
- Keep booth and weiss until the kids are ready. lets face it, if they dont, who is going to go the games.
Gaborik…. Any scorer is better than nothing. Especially for the right $$$$.
by Hawkseye on Mar 2, 2011 11:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I forgot about kopecky. He probably is circled in red ink for first target of tallon’s.
by Hawkseye on Mar 2, 2011 11:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
“(no trade clauses = NO WAY!)”
it really hasnt been a problem for us….most want out of here anyways lol
Don’t know about that…see McCabe, Allen, Stillman. If it wasn’t for interest from the Rags or Canes, we’d likely have been out of luck.
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by Donny Rivette on Mar 2, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
I would add that there is a big difference on what the panthers received for Dvorak- good prospect. Compared to just samsanov for Allen. No trade clauses hurt tallon at the trade table.
I think that due to the Cba up, we will see the one to two year ufa deals.
by Hawkseye on Mar 2, 2011 11:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I may have the intent of the original comment completely wrong, but Dvo didn’t have a NTC. He would have been a very tough trade had that not been the case. Good guy that he is wanted to remain here.
Allen was limited in options but chose CAR, thanks in large part to Stiller’s influence with Jim Rutherford (one of my favorites ;).
On that same deal, Allen’s salary was cleared for next year, which is precisely what Tallon, Inc is trying to do.
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by Donny Rivette on Mar 3, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, that trade was about dumping Allen’s salary for next year and making space on the blue line for Gudbranson. The return was a body for the top 6. They took our contract we didn’t want and we took their player they didn’t want and weren’t going to re-sign.
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RFAs
I know Stamkos’ name has been mentioned a number of times here in recent days, and I think we all understand that he’s not coming to FLA under just about any circumstance, but looking at it under another, lesser light:
We’ve begged for a serious, legitimate rivalry with TB for a decade or more – and likely Bolts Faithful wish for the same – soooooo…
You want a rivalry? How about a $10M offer thrown Seen’s way? Tampa will of course match, but man oh man would that generate some realistic emotions between the organizations.
Fantasy? Perhaps, but how much ridiculous fun would it be watching that scenario play out?
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It would be hilarious. The other question would be could Yormark keep his pants on? He could pull a “Seen Stamkos? He’s in Sunrise” ad campaign.
Stamkos isn’t coming here – but it would light a hell of a spark under that rivalry.
“Seenrise”!
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by Donny Rivette on Mar 2, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking that earlier
Tallon might do just that. Yormark would sign off on it so long as someone reminds him of Bure’s effect on the gate receipts. I’d LOVE to see Stamkos sign a fat offer sheet for something like $7million per over ten years. If the Panthers get him, woohoo! If Tampa matches, they are all of a sudden paying 15 million to two players (Stamkos, Lecavalier). There’s another 14 million committed to three others (St Louis, Malone, Ohlund). That leaves maybe 25 million for the rest of the squad; not a lot to ice a coMpetitive team. It would hamstring TB for years to come.
The only downsides of actually getting him are that he’s one bad knee away from being a huge REAL money pit, and I don’t know what TB’s compensation would be if they decline to match. In the old CBA it was a number of first round picks based on contract size (up to five years’ worth). I don’t know what it is now, but considering how much Dale likes daft picks, it’s probably too much to give up.
It’s all moot anyway. No one thinks Stamkos is going to get to the RFA period. Tampa’s going to lock him up long before then.
Good summary, Jimmy. Compensation is obviously a colossal stumbling point which Tallon should never pursue, but it’s fun to dream.
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by Donny Rivette on Mar 2, 2011 11:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I love the idea of tallon making rfa offers and driving salary cap space upward of rivals. I forgot but isn’t parise available… What a group that could be: parise, booth, Weiss…..
by Hawkseye on Mar 2, 2011 11:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Parise is available.
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by Donny Rivette on Mar 3, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
Though fun, the underlying problems are 1) it drives up player salaries across the league, and 2) makes dealing with rival GMs nearly impossible down the road.
Still, it’s a legal tool for managers to use.
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by Donny Rivette on Mar 3, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
I’m referring to Offer Sheets, of course.
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by Donny Rivette on Mar 3, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
God help me when I get curious about something
Whoever says they understand the CBA is lying or crazy, and the two are not mutually exclusive. Nonetheless, I’ve delved into the muck where lawyers fear to tread and found the following in section 10.4:
OFFER SHEET -—-COMPENSATION to the prior club
$660,000 or below -—-None
Over $660,000 to $1 million -—-Third Round
Over $1 million to $2.0 million -—-Second Round
Over $2.0 million to $3.0 million -—-First Round and Third Round
Over $3.0 million to $4.0 million———First Round, Second Round, and Third Round
Over $4.0 million to $5.0 million———Two First Rounds, Second Round, and Third Round
Over $5 million———Four First Rounds
The draft picks must be your own, as well, and must be available in the next draft(s).
So yeah, as entertaining as this would be, Tallon’s not going to do it. He seems more a chess player than poker player and even if he wins the bluff, he loses.
Thanks for the work, Jim.
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by Donny Rivette on Mar 3, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
2010 compensation
Donny’s list is from when the CBA was first hatched, but the compensation grows/shrinks based on revenue just like the cap.
2010 Compensation
$1,020,348 or below: No compensation.
$1,020,348 to $1,545,981: A third-round draft choice.
$1,545,981 to $3,091,963: A second round draft choice.
$3,091,963 to $4,637,944: A first-round choice and a third-rounder.
$4,637,944 to $6,183,925: A first- a second- and a third-rounder.
$6,183,925 to $7,729,907: Two First-round choices, a second-rounder and a third-rounder.
Over $7,729,907: Four first-rounders.
by Craig Fischer on Mar 3, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
New CBA
I think the new CBA may be one of the most important factors this Summer. Whilst I doubt it will provide the seismic shift the previous one did, it is dangerous to assume there will not be important changes. Combine this with a weak UFA pool, I’m not sure now would be the time to splash the cash. Wait until you know the rules and the team is truly ready for that big signing (NB. Addition of Hossa to Chicago).
In the meantime as has already been stated sign up our young talent and look for other talent other teams cannot afford to keep. Hopefully get a lottery pick this year and probably next and then hopefully we will be in the driving seat. I know another terrible season will be hard to take but at least it will hopefully be a group of talented kids we can watch grow into a team.
I think Dale (or Mike Santos) is counting on some of the better teams to need to shed salary to re-sign young players, like Chicago last year. I think instead of being active in free agency like they keep saying, we’ll see them trade picks and a maybe a couple of prospects right before the draft for roster players that teams need to dump.
Or maybe they’re going to overpay a bunch of vets for one year to make the salary floor.
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Stocking the club – to a point – with rental vets is a possibility (a definite one considering salary requirements per the CBA); an excellent point.
Isn’t Olesz due for a $30M raise?
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by Donny Rivette on Mar 4, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions

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