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The Week Ahead: 3/8-3/14 - Tanking Edition, part 2

With only 5 weeks remaining in the 2010-11 NHL regular season, the Florida Panthers have miraculously prolonged the seemingly inevitable plunge into last place despite the massive fire sale prior to the deadline. With a roster filled in with new players and AHL call-ups, we have somehow kept up with our divisional rivals and ended the games with familiar one-goal finals. We have only 16 games to will our way into last place or to the playoffs, and although it means setting an NHL record for most consecutive years without a playoff appearance, the former option seems a bit more appealing and realistic. It's all about the future now. Again, it is unbelievably painful to willingly hope for the Panthers to lose; it seems like another wasted season, but on the bright side we hadn't dipped into the bottom five all year until the last week or so. It's been a great run, and only now are we realizing the expectations of ‘the experts' who recognize us as the perennial losers. Even though it might not be in their best interests, the Panthers are not going down without a fight. We have a lot to look forward to next year. More after the jump...

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Our main competition for last place is divided between 4 other teams, the Colorado Avalanche, the Ottawa Senators, the Edmonton Oilers and the New York Islanders. The success of these teams is crucial to getting the best possible pick and hitting pay dirt at the Draft.

 

Date Away Home Benefits FLA Significance Final  Points from FLA
 8th OTT NJD OTT Ottawa moves 6 points behind OTT 2-1
Sens -8 (55)
TOR NYI NYI Isles overtake Panthers by 1 point NYI 4-3 OT Isles -1 (62)
EDM PHI EDM Oilers move 5 behind PHI 4-1 Oilers -9 (54)
BUF PIT BUF Buffalo no longer a threat PIT 3-1 Pens +23 (86)
BOS MTL MTL Doesn't much matter, ole MTL 4-1 Habs + 16 (79)
CHI FLA CHI FLA must lose FLA 3-2  (63)
COL MIN COL Avs overtake Panthers by 1 point MIN 5-2 Avs -3 (60)
9th EDM WSH EDM Oilers win again, closing the gap WSH 5-0 Caps +23 (86)
ATL CAR ATL Atlanta seperates from the pack ATL 3-2 OT ATL +4 (67)
CHI TBL TBL Lets go Lightning!! TBL 4-3 SO Bolts +21 (84)
NYR ANA NYR Rangers hold on to playoff spot ANA 5-2 Ducks +14 (77)
10th BUF BOS BUF Buffalo keeps winning BUF 4-3 OT Sabres +9 (72)
PHI TOR TOR Toronto not likely a threat PHI 3-2 PHI + 27 (90)
OTT FLA OTT Who wants to lose more? OTT 2-1 Sens - 6 (57)
MTL STL MTL Habs get some points, ole ole STL 4-1 Blues +8 (71)
11th BOS NYI NYI Isles keep moving up NYI 4-2 Isles +1 (64)
CAR WSH CAR Who cares?  WSH 2-1 Caps +25 (88)
EDM DET EDM Edmonton moves closer to the Panthers DET 2-1 OT Oilers -8 (55)
NJD ATL ATL Atlanta keeps trying NJD 3-2 OT  Devils +3 (66)
OTT TBL OTT Ottawa potentially one game back OTT 2-1 Sens -2 (61)
ANA COL COL Avs never beat this team, but lets hope they do ANA 6-2 Ducks +14 (79)
12th MTL PIT MTL Habs get even more points, ole ole ole MTL 3-0 Habs +18 (83)
BUF TOR TOR Toronto officially in contention? TOR 4-3 Leafs +5 (70)
NYI NJD NYI Isles continue to build their pride NJD 3-2 OT Devils +3 (68)
ATL PHI ATL Huge game for the Thrashers ATL 5-4 OT ATL +5 (70)
CBJ CAR CAR Again, I hate the Canes CBJ 3-2 CBJ +8 (73)
TBL FLA TBL Help our brothers take the division! FLA 4-3 OT (65)
COL NSH COL Avs continue to move away from us NSH 4-2 Preds +15 (80)
NYR SJS NYR Go Wolski!!...you too McCabe NYR 3-2 SO Rags +11 (76)
13th CHI WSH WSH Not a very critical game, at all WSH 4-3 OT Caps +25 (90)
EDM PIT EDM Edmonton overtakes the Panthers? PIT 5-1 Pens +23 (88)
OTT BUF OTT Ottawa overtakes the Panthers? BUF 6-4 BUF +11 (76)
14th TBL TOR TOR Also a quite arbitrary game TBL 6-2 Bolts +22 (87)

 

My biggest worry for the week ahead is the performance of the Colorado Avalanche. I took the time to watch the second period of their 5-1 loss to the Oilers on the 5th and I must admit they look sorrier than we do. To put it plainly, the Avs seem to have made the seamless transition to tanking after the trade deadline that the Panthers haven't made. It is equally painful to watch my two favorite teams, and it seems like we might go down to the wire to see who comes out on top (or is it ‘on bottom'?) The Isles and Oilers are playing mighty well right now; neither team seems interested in those bottom picks this year. The Sens also have been winning as of late although their schedule this week isn't going to be easy. The bottom five teams belong to two classes, those who hung around in contention as long as possible and are now tanking, like the Panthers and Avalanche, and the teams who hung around the bottom for seemingly forever who now wish to play for pride, like the Oilers, Sens and Isles. It's going to be an interesting (and painful) month ahead of us.

Since there are less than 20 games left in the season for each team, we can simulate the final standings with a little more confidence. Beware, this might mean you have to learn some simple algebra (oh no!).

y=mx+b is an algebraic function, where y is the total points earned, m is the rate of points earned (last ten games) x is the games remaining and b is the points already earned. Easy enough, right?

(Thanks for the whole box quote-equation inspiration from your PPE articles, Craig)

Using this function, at the rate we're going, the Avs will pick up the first pick with 67 points, followed by the Cats (71) Sens (72) Oilers (76) and Isles (77). This is neither the best or worst case scenario, this is what is in all likeliness to happen.

However, lets look at the best case scenario for the next week. The standings as of today (3/7/11):

Seed Team GR Points
26 Florida 16 61
27 Colorado 17 60
28 New York 15 60
29 Edmonton 16 54
30 Ottawa 17 53

 

And again, if everything follows my diabolical plan:

Seed Team GR Points
26 New York 12 66
27 Colorado 14 66
28 Edmonton 12 62
29 Ottawa 13 61
30 Florida 13 61

 

Now, I must remind us all that while we are 8 points out of 30th place, we are 11 points out of a playoff spot and our schedule has some winnable games. The effort we're playing with is commendable, and with the addition of some players (ie. Dadonov, Carter, Kennedy, perhaps Matthias and Skille soon) who knows what will happen. Conflicting intentions is an understatement.

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Don't suppose winning as many games as you can would work?

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by Alexander Calloway on Mar 7, 2011 8:10 PM EST reply actions  

“as you can”

Doesnt mean we will win many

by Colt1235 on Mar 7, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Painful indeed, but the future is worth it.

I feel worst for the players and coaches, who are not going to roll over in any sense. Not their jobs to be “looking ahead”, as it is. “Win Now” is all they know.

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by Donny Rivette on Mar 7, 2011 8:49 PM EST reply actions  

Way to say it better in three sentences than I could in about 300 words.

by Spencer-IV on Mar 7, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Excellent assessment of the mathematical situation we find ourselves in.

Honestly, I’ve been on the tank wagon since the All Star weekend; subconsciously since before that. Even if were were to make the playoffs by a point or two (or a tie breaker (?!)) it seems it would be a token berth. Seriously, how deep could we have run in such a case? Another “haven’t won a playoff game since…” headline would have been inevitable.

You bring up a solid point about the Avs. They made a change that we failed to make: they traded their goalie to ensure the tank would be in full effect. Should we “fail” to "earn"+ last place this season I think we can thank the guy wearing #29. Much like DeBoer has said in sound bite after sound bite: the players/coaches job is still that of winning games. Management may want a pick but these are competitive guys, nothing – not standings or hope for rebuilding – is going to change that.

Additionally, we have a lot of guys that are auditioning for jobs next season and beyond. I have personally worked for a company that was seeking losses to boost tax write-offs. I felt that helping a company fail wasn’t going to look all that hot on my resume. Everyone on this team needs a job somewhere after their expiring UFA contracts are up, any chance there’s a scout from the Oilers watching the Panthers play thinking “Wow, this guy can really cough up the puck in the neutral zone like he means it. Let’s get that guy!”

From here on out I think I will keep hoping for a win but be much less disappointed with a loss… Who knows, we could finish 27th and still win the lottery.

< /rant >

+ If there were a better indication of sarcasm than well-places quotation marks I’d love to use them in the future.

by Spencer-IV on Mar 7, 2011 9:07 PM EST reply actions  

From here on out I think I will keep hoping for a win but be much less disappointed with a loss… Who knows, we could finish 27th and still win the lottery.

Agreed, but if we win, lets make sure we beat a really good team, gotta work on ending that whole “we’re playing Florida, easy points” notion. It will by no means be the end of the world if we don’t get the first pick. I imagine (Avs GM) Sherman will use their pick to take Larsson if he’s available since defense has been a problem and Adam Foote may retire this summer, Oilers might try to get Larsson as well since the offense is covered with the HOPE line. We could get a choice between Landeskog, Couturier and Nugent-Hopkins

The unaimed arrow never misses

by Chris S Roberts on Mar 7, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, chances are Larsson will be taken before us, whether it be EDM (already have a surplus of young forwards), COL (Johnson + Larsson), NYI (Already have a good amount of offense) or OTT. We could finish 4th to last, and get one of the 3 forwards 100%

by Colt1235 on Mar 7, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

With all the one goal games we’ve had this season my friends/fans of other teams don’t seem to be pulling the “Panthers are easy to play against line” nearly as much as once was the case. It doesn’t hurt that we’re out shooting teams all of a sudden, not to mention the new acquisitions throwing a hit or two.

I would be thrilled if we could snag Landeskog or Couturier. Let’s get Gudbranson into a deal this year, then maybe give Howden a few real games to see what he has to offer. (Dare I ask that we leave Markstrom in the ALH (team TBD) for a while and call him up for a few starts once in a while? Provided Vokun is let go on 00:01 01.07.2011 of course.)

While the other lower fifth ranked teams have been picking up scoring power we’ve been stockpiling D-men over the last few drafts. This leaves us in a better position than one might have thought over the last season or two. Maybe a touch of the JM/RS era might benefit the team in the near term. Here’s to going for a “natural” scorer.

by Spencer-IV on Mar 7, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Our failure to win last night upset some of my friends rooting for the Lightning. Yes, there are still a significant number of Lightning fans who view us as a rivalry. I view them as a rival, always want to win vs them, tank or not. Ok except for the last game of the season last year, that was an exception.

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by coasterg on Mar 7, 2011 9:15 PM EST reply actions  

Yea, that game was about rooting fot Stamkos over Crosby. I was right there with ya.

by Spencer-IV on Mar 7, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Look, ma! Front page!

Thanks Donny :)

The unaimed arrow never misses

by Chris S Roberts on Mar 7, 2011 9:48 PM EST reply actions  

Keep it up, killer. Good stuff.

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by Donny Rivette on Mar 7, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I absolutely hate the concept of tanking and the lack of integrity and pride that goes with it.
That being said, its a pretty convincing article

by eliran2 on Mar 7, 2011 11:21 PM EST reply actions  

It sucks to no end, sir. But at least a realistic, effective path has been plotted. I’d love nothing more than to see FLA’s current roster – and coaching staff – make an historic run next year, or even this year – but how will the franchise suffer long-term without a bundle of strategic moves? Going to be a wild summer.

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by Donny Rivette on Mar 7, 2011 11:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No doubt. We all have to remember, this is what should have happened almost 8 years ago.

Hold onto your hats this summer, because I think the draft is going to be a blast.

by badger737 on Mar 8, 2011 7:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I understand his point, and should point out we’ve had our share of high first round picks – but at some point it gets old being stuck in 9th to 11th place at the end of the year.

I’m still awaiting the spectacle of two teams – tied for last place at the end of the season – busily shoots pucks into their own nets. Final score: Islanders 35, Oilers 37 – that sort of thing.

by OldDave on Mar 8, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Forget playoffs. No shot! Mathematically still possible but this team is totally incapable of putting a decent streak together. Assuming we are getting some assets back soon; Matty, Dadonov and Skille, surely this team will make a little noise in the end. Clemmer is getting work now which is making him better and sharper. I think if we’re palying to lose we go with the endlessly overrated Vokoun.

CFS93

by chesterbardo on Mar 8, 2011 6:55 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Not to sound ignorant but does it matter if we pick #1 or #4 in the first round? It’s not like this draft has a Stamkos as a sure-fire #1 or even a Hall/Seguin 1/2 like last year. If we are in the top 4 we will get one of the Nugent-Hopkins/Swedish D/Ladomskong/Coutourier (sorry for the spelling) group and that is fine with me.

I don’t think it is about tanking, it is about giving the younger guys like Ellerby, Garrison, Bergfors etc. the most playing time.

by roywhitby on Mar 8, 2011 9:25 AM EST reply actions  

Perhaps the reason no one is really being hyped as the best player in the draft is because there are 3 strong forwards that all seem ligitimate, the hype is there, its just been spread around a bit. The last month of the season is going to be the best shot for the kids to audition themselves, especially Ellerby and Kulikov, who have a big workload now the McCabe Wideman and Allen are gone. I think they will continue to elevate thier game to a higher level

The unaimed arrow never misses

by Chris S Roberts on Mar 8, 2011 12:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Perhaps the reason no one is really being hyped as the best player in the draft is because there are 3 strong forwards that all seem ligitimate, the hype is there, its just been spread around a bit. The last month of the season is going to be the best shot for the kids to audition themselves, especially Ellerby and Kulikov, who have a big workload now the McCabe Wideman and Allen are gone. I think they will continue to elevate thier game to a higher level

The unaimed arrow never misses

by Chris S Roberts on Mar 8, 2011 12:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I think we’re already seeing this. Kulikov has stepped his game up with McCabe gone. He was a monster last night, and covered for a bunch of mistakes by Wilson and Callahan.

"We don't need the designated goon. Those fights aren't even fun to watch." -Mike Milbury

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by John Beatty on Mar 9, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps the reason no one is really being hyped as the best player in the draft is because there are 3 strong forwards that all seem ligitimate, the hype is there, its just been spread around a bit. The last month of the season is going to be the best shot for the kids to audition themselves, especially Ellerby and Kulikov, who have a big workload now the McCabe Wideman and Allen are gone. I think they will continue to elevate thier game to a higher level

The unaimed arrow never misses

by Chris S Roberts on Mar 8, 2011 12:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

triple post? did i just set the record for mobile commenting failure?

The unaimed arrow never misses

by Chris S Roberts on Mar 8, 2011 12:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

At least it was a reasonable comment. But if we get any of the top 4 does it really matter? This is not like last year where you really wanted to be in the top 2.

by roywhitby on Mar 8, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

To answer your question, no. If we end up in the bottom four we should have no problem. Even if the unlikey happens and we take Larsson we will just bolster the blueline. Scoring seems to be the most pressing issue for us, but we cant expect the problem to be completely solved at the draft. UFA signing will be important as well as increased production from our current roster.

The unaimed arrow never misses

by Chris S Roberts on Mar 8, 2011 1:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That’s the thing. This year the top spot counts for a lot less than other years, so while I’m on the tank bandwagon, I also see more value in this group coming together and winning some games late than in losing the rest of the way just to get a top pick.

"We don't need the designated goon. Those fights aren't even fun to watch." -Mike Milbury

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by John Beatty on Mar 9, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm still in the "Tank" camp, but there are some games worth winning

The Panthers need to lose the remaining games vs. Ottawa and NYI. I’d also like them to beat NYR if only to shut up the tourists in the stands. Beyond that, if they have to win games I hope they’re at home and in the shootout (tiebreaker reasons). The fans deserve that. But if they lose everything they play on the road, I won’t cry too much.

by jimmyh71 on Mar 8, 2011 10:47 AM EST reply actions  

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