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A brief history of the Peter DeBoer era

The Florida Panthers' now-former head coach certainly had an unenviable trial by fire during his first three years as a top dog in the National Hockey League:

  • Employed by 3 separate ownership groups (Alan Cohen, Stu Siegel/Cliff Viner, Viner)
  • Served under 3 general managers (Jacques Martin, Randy Sexton, Dale Tallon)
  • Coached 55 players in regular season games over three-year span
  • Record during service:  246 games coached, 103 wins, 107 losses, 36 OT losses, 242 points, .491 win %
  • 2008-09:  41-30-11  93 points (missed postseason on tiebreaker vs Montreal, since eradicated)
  • 2009-10:  32-37-13  77 points (last in Southeast Division)
  • 2010-11:  30-40-12  72 points (15th in Eastern Conference)

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Those are some tough odds to succeed with. I mean 55 players???

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by Donny Rivette on Apr 10, 2011 2:39 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I don’t know… the 3 different GMs thing strikes me as even worse.

by lipsonjeff on Apr 10, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That and 3 ownership groups. George Richards got it right, the guy got screwed. Cohen and Martin told him they would do what it took to win. They would spend money, they would make the big moves. What happened? They were in a playoff spot at the deadline and JM refuses to trade Jay Bo, who had already asked to be traded, when his value is high to bring in some guys who could score (seriously, we missed out on Carter and Giroux from the Flyers because JM couldn’t get JVR too?). Then Cohen and Martin both bail on him and leave him to the new owners/GMs. The guy has his faults, but he’ll do better with a more organized and functional organization. It’s time for a change, both for him and the team.

"We don't need the designated goon. Those fights aren't even fun to watch." -Mike Milbury

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by John Beatty on Apr 10, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1 to all 3 posts above, seriously.

by maple on Apr 11, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

While I was reading that, all I could imagine in my head was this guy in free fall that seemed to never end. Until today… splat.

by lipsonjeff on Apr 10, 2011 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

…and I haven’t even looked at man-games lost to injury. Guy had everything against him.

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by Donny Rivette on Apr 10, 2011 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL don’t even try. It’s sad enough as it is. But long live Talloncat.

by lipsonjeff on Apr 10, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Talloncat has a tall task ahead finding a better coach than DeBeor, but fear not—Talloncat will prevail

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by Chris S Roberts on Apr 10, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a symbolic gesture to the club and the new Tallon era, how about redoing the Panther jerseys….

by Hawkseye on Apr 10, 2011 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

On the way.

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by Donny Rivette on Apr 10, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really hope it’s true and not just an unfounded rumor. I’m saving for a new jersey next season, preferably a red one.

by Sdiaz6215 on Apr 10, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t know the timing yet but it is happening.

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by Donny Rivette on Apr 10, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Soon...

… at least that would explain why the home and away jerseys at Pantherland were are 40% off Saturday … while the 3rd jersey was discounted only 20%.

by OldDave on Apr 10, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s just say there’s a reason the old logo is back on the Panthers website.

"We don't need the designated goon. Those fights aren't even fun to watch." -Mike Milbury

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by John Beatty on Apr 11, 2011 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d watch what you wish for however. Yormark would have control over the new designs.

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by coasterg on Apr 10, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Three “Happy Cat” jerseys? Perhaps Tallon would just kill him…

by OldDave on Apr 10, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would end my Panthers jerseys collection right there. Already refuse to get the current 3rd, I just don’t like it.

I’d love to see some creatively designed new jerseys with a good, active logo. Not the “Happy Cat”.

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by coasterg on Apr 11, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

There's good news all around in this

My gut reaction is “Poor Pete wasn’t given a chance” but considering how well he did with what little he was given, he will not be unemployed for long. Also it’s pretty obvious he and Tallon have differences in opinion on who should be on the ice. I wish him all the best unless his new job is in the Eastern conference. Then I wish him all the second-best.

Hulton’s firing? Probably about 41 games late. Maybe he can go coach the PP for Tampa or Carolina?

Murphy’s non-firing? SMART. I have a little more faith in Tallon now. If there has been a bright spot this season, it’s the D. Even with the losses on the blue line at trade day, the D looks solid most nights and will only look better next season. Keeping Murphy over it is a good thing.

by jimmyh71 on Apr 10, 2011 5:32 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

he’s not coaching for any other team though.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Apr 10, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correct; should have clarified that

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by Donny Rivette on Apr 10, 2011 8:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well I more or less meant the implications of him not returning, i.e. Mike Haviland being an option for NJ now.

by Sdiaz6215 on Apr 10, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

While he might be the perfect coach for us, he’s retiring from coaching so unfortunately we’re still job-hunting. Would be nice if Tallon decided on the new coaching job within the next few weeks. Anybody think that Chuck Weber, the Rochester coach that Tallon hired, is in the running?

- Go Panthers -

by flpanther360 on Apr 10, 2011 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Guy’s got a lot of (non-NHL) pro experience; I’d say he gets the obligatory meeting, but guessing the idea is to hire someone with at least a few years in the Bigs. This is probably not the best time for experimentation.

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by Donny Rivette on Apr 11, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

With the style and framework of players Tallon and Santos are signing or looking to bring in, I anticipate a coach who has experience coaching a heavy forechecking, fast transition style of hockey, and I would assume it would be someone with NHL-level experience.

In all reality, DeBoer’s system wasn’t far from this, and he simply didn’t have the tools here to create that style of play. It remains to be seen though. It sure is shaping up to be a very news-filled summer for the Cats.

by Ryan Meier on Apr 11, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

The talent level should be markedly higher across the board in 2010-11

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by Donny Rivette on Apr 11, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is completely off-topic

…but ESPN stopped providing text message score and news updates to Sprint customers (which is why I didn’t find out DeBoer was canned until this morning), does anybody here know of a good service for text message updates?

by JDMorris on Apr 11, 2011 9:50 AM EDT reply actions  

GREAT question. I’ll look into that.

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by Donny Rivette on Apr 11, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

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