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Thursday Caterwaul: pre-Draft musings, rumorblog, whatever

Open forum goodness: the NHL pre-season (at least) schedule should be released to day around 2ish, last night's awards show was everything most expected it to be, and the league is converging in Minnesota for what is very likely to be TallonFest 2011. Talk it up here.

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Although I may not be able to watch the draft, I would hope to hear “We have a trade” immediately after Bettman congratulates the Bruins.

by studyaid on Jun 23, 2011 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

We’ll have a live thread ready to go, so check in often to see what’s going on.

I expect we’ll hear that phrase uttered many times on Friday and Saturday.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 23, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m expecting it TODAY.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 23, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll try to get on mobile, but in all honesty, my wife and I are getting a weekend away in Naples, and I’m not sure what we’re going to do tomorrow night. Depends what time we get over there, and how we feel.

by studyaid on Jun 23, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Was this Jay mohr guy any good?

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

No. He was not. Lambert agrees

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 23, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Still looking for this ‘joke’

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

The entire thing was just B-list all the way, except for Jon Hamm, who is a legitimate star now (and a damn good actor; watch “Mad Men” if you haven’t already).

I agree with some other commentary on the net in that Hamm should just host it. He’s got more charisma in his pinky than Jay Mohr has in his entire body.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 23, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kevin Smith isn’t B-list! Well not in my opinion atleast. Dudes been one of my fav directors/writers for a long time.. Clerks, Mallrats, Chasing Amy, Dogma, jay and bob strike back, practically rewrote good will hunting for ben and matt when they brought it to him.. directed tracy morgan and bruce willis in cop out. as well as rewrote some of the script in the newest die hard movie and had a small part as the comp nerd hacker dude.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 23, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love Kevin Smith and his movies as well, but he sold out hardcore with the B’s jersey. Not cool.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 23, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah shoulda stuck with his devils.. but oh well, im sure if I got one for free id wear it.

Not a fan of boston by any means but i love collecting jerseys, even acquired a flyer jersey earlier this season

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 23, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

 Not to mention he wears Jorts to a classy affair.

by Craig Fischer on Jun 23, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea but that’s part of his shtick. Same as crazy-ass Don Cherry and his equally crazy-ass suits.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 23, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody calls the two classiest brods in reality tv, B-List!

by Craig Fischer on Jun 23, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

 lol, I called them Stoll-bait. I don’t know if he was there, but I remember from Edmonton—he likes the older ladies.

by Craig Fischer on Jun 23, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought he married Hunter and is technically on a diet.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Won’t be able to make it to Duffy’s, but I’ll be watching from work. =(

Can’t wait to see the jerseys.

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 23, 2011 11:13 AM EDT reply actions  

What’dya think is going to happen with Voky tomorrow?

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 11:14 AM EDT reply actions  

I just dont think he’s going to re-sign anymore, this game has gone on too long

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Too early to tell. The only guess I would have is that Tallon moves his rights during the draft for a 3rd or 4th rounder or something like that.

This draft is a very interesting one for Florida. They have the most cap room of any team in the NHL, so they have the ability to do other teams a favor by acquiring bad contracts, and in exchange pick up some extra prospects or draft picks. Tallon has immense freedom at this draft to do what he sees best. It’s going to be a bit of a rollercoaster I think. Can’t wait!

by Ryan Meier on Jun 23, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Truthfully, I hope it stays at that. I really dont want to end up trading away any more assets than we’ve already parted ways with at the trade deadline

But yes, super excited to see who we pick and the jersey unveiling

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would think moving Vokoun’s rights would merit more than a pick. Maybe a pick and a high priced contract.

by studyaid on Jun 23, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Possibly. Like I said, SOOOO many options for Dale, it’s a very open-ended situation for him right now.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 23, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

That only happens if someone signs Vokoun as part of the trade. No one is going to give up anything more than a draft pick for rights unless it’s someone else’s rights, ala Bouwmeester.

by badger737 on Jun 23, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Edmonton was of the belief, that they are ready to compete for a playoff spot with a serious netminder backstopping them, they could trade Souray and a pick to open up cap space, while signing Vokoun. Rare scenario with a highly unlikely chance of it happening.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 23, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m almost more interested in seeing if any RFA’s are poached

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 23, 2011 11:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Unfortunately, my first choice would have been Stamkos, that would have been a huge coup for Tallon. However, it seems like he’ll be signed, plus, he’s the face of NHL 12, and how would that look having a cover person end up playing for another team? (note sarcasm [Farve])

by studyaid on Jun 23, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention the 4 first-rounders he’d have to surrender.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 23, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, that’s the real damage from an offer sheet. No thank you.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 23, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

As long as they dont poach our guys, bring it on

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

 I hope someone does actually—like Bergfors. I can’t see him re-signing, and if both sides walk away we get nothing.

by Craig Fischer on Jun 23, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Schedule today, glad they’ve decided to release it early, makes for easy trip planning

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Sooo…the draft will be shown on NHLN or TSN correct? I hope I can find a feed

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

I’ll grant your wish here.

Good website for streaming. If I can figure out how to use a Slingbox to stream, there might be more Panther games being streamed next season.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 23, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

YES, I was hoping p2p would get a stream thread going!

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Duffys Ft Lauderdale tomorrow ….

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by RPC on Jun 23, 2011 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

A look at FLA’s options, via Jason (one of the PPP boys):

http://theleafsnation.com/2011/6/22/how-teams-will-meet-the-cap-floor

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 23, 2011 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

WOW

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by RPC on Jun 23, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder how many VS/NBC games the Panthers will have this year. :-)

by studyaid on Jun 23, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

No less than last season ;)

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 23, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

One less than the number of Panthers jokes that came out of Jay Mohr’s unfunny mouth.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 23, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did he really have a Panther joke? I avoided the whole awards show.

by studyaid on Jun 23, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what I heard as well. Have yet to hear the joke though.

I turned in kind of late when the transvestites were up there and they called Martin St. “Lewis” his award, promptly face-palmed, and changed the channel.

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 23, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

He did. He led in with certain players retiring, and then said the entire Florida Panthers team retired this past season.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 23, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know whether to be annoyed that we’re the subject of jokes or pleased that we were at least present at the show, even in joke form.

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 23, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you got annoyed at this franchise being the subject of jokes in the hockey world, you would’ve switched teams by now :)

by Ryan Meier on Jun 23, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent point. It’ll be all the more sweeter when we become a force in the league.

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 23, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

If this draft goes well, and it should, the organization is WELL on it’s way.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 23, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you Scottish per chance? Maybe a Highlander? Cause you might need to live forever, if the Panthers lack of patience continues to not last more than two years. Tallon is only half way through Dudley’s tenure, before being shown the door.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

He ragged on a lot of other teams and specific players harder than us.. im fine with being mentioned its better than our lack of participation at any of the past award shows.. vanc and edmonton as well as a really good shot at winnipeg were the highlight to me

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 23, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

That whole Awards show....

was a joke…..many many vacant seats….and hockey players don’t make great speakers….eh

by LAUSMAN on Jun 23, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

 It wasn’t malicious, and yeah if you finish bad you should be ragged on a bit. I loved his Edmonton jokes. “16…PLAYOFF GAMES, EDMONTON” lol.

by Craig Fischer on Jun 23, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Winnipeg is in the house?! Oh you guys must be excited with all this running water.” lmao

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 23, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Should be a fun 72 hours I hope!

Gonna be wearing red to work tomorrow, since I wont be able to catch the Pantehrs pick before getting off work. Looking forward to it! Preference in order: Huberdeau, RNH, Landeskog, Couturier. And hopefully a trade or two.

by saskpantherfan on Jun 23, 2011 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Btw.. I hear theres talk that we could trade #3 and a 3rd or 4th rounder along with ellerby for #1.. Since I’ve never been a huge Ellerby fan nor am I fully sold on his future in the NHL or with our team (only signing him to a one yr deal) I wouldnt hate if this happened, gives edm a defenseman they need as well as chance to still get larsson and gives us RNH who will if developed properly will im sure be a franchise player

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 23, 2011 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Duhatschek at the Globe & Mail:

Sources say Florida would be willing to give up a roster player (Stephen Weiss maybe?) in order to make the (1st round swap with EDM) happen.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 23, 2011 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Perhaps not, but Duhatschek is one to listen to.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 23, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Read the comments on the link i posted.. a lovely montreal fan felt the need to comment, i had to have a laugh at him saying our management needs an overhaul.. the only thing this team needs is to be rid of yormark and were good.

atleast our area wont riot when we lose (or in our case in the future win) a stanley cup.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 23, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

no wonder stephen weiss is mentioned… this website hard a maple leaf on it.. damn canadians

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 23, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have been really thinking about the possibility of Weiss being dealt this offseason. There’s more of a chance it happens this year than any other year so far. I’m in the camp that would prefer to see him kept, as he’s one of the best two-way centers in the league for the price.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 23, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Dineed will slap him with the “C” he deserves, kid will probably stick as a panther for awhile

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 23, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dineen, jesus whats with my typing today

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 23, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stop celebrating the draft pick 24 hours before the draft. You keep drinking at this pace, you’ll miss the pick.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe, maybe not. As great a player as Weiss is, he’s also closely associated to the losing culture that has been here during his entire NHL career. That can be a dangerous thing, even if it isn’t his fault at all.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 23, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s also stuck with it and improved just about every season he’s been here, as well as now being the longest tenured player on the team, he’s definately leadership material we need to have for prospects or even newly signed guys coming in.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 23, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you. Let’s hope management sees it the same way.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 23, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

My honest opinion is that Tallon gets the man he wants in the draft..

And should he not and RNH or landeskog are taken 1 and 2 I see him taking larsson and having him pair with guds in the future. Making room to trade one of our other defensive prospects as well as a pick possibly to get another late first rounder.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 23, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even if Larsson is there at 3, I don’t see the Panthers taking him. They know they need any type of offense they can get. If they stay at 3, and RNH and Landeskog go 1 & 2, then Huberdeau (sp?) is going 3

by studyaid on Jun 23, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Larsson is honestly too good to pass up, the only way we dont pick him if he’s left is if we know nj really likes him, then u acquire a pick from them to leave him on the board and take huber..

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 23, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

So was Horton and Campbell though—there’s so much turnover and change that I don’t think it matters, it’s basically an entirely new team side from a few executive positions.

by Craig Fischer on Jun 23, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

HOrton wanted out. It wasn’t the franchise looking to deal him. Campbell was a sign to Deboer, his time may just be up if the team didn’t perform.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa thats a little much

I remember to move from 3rd to first the Pens payed us Samuelsson and 3rd for 1st pick. I would think if Edmonton was going to move it, the price sure would not be Weiss AND the 3rd. Unless Tallon is looking at Weiss for the 1st, but not moving the 3rd pick…

My guess, Repik and 3rd pick for 1st and 4th pick maybe….

or preferrably: 1st, Souray/Horcoff for 3rd, Repik and 3rd rnd pick.

Being that I was in Edmotnon for a few years, I think Repik would be a nice fit there if we had to move someone to get the Oilers pick.

by saskpantherfan on Jun 23, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

PLUS

I still would prefer they not trade up and get either Landeskog or Huberdeau…

by saskpantherfan on Jun 23, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m completely sold on RNH, and if they can’t get him it’s landeskog for me.. if neither are available then its best available person left, which would be larsson.. like i said, use a defensive prospect as trade bait with a pick for a later first round pick and we’d be talk of the draft yet again..

plus we’d be set on the back end much like chicago was, seabrooke and kieth are beasts.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 23, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any trade featuring Horcroff’s contract for the length it is, is not preferable. Its a deal break imo. Souray, he can be sent to the minors for a year and use his cap number to eat space for a season. But four years of Horcoff’s disgustingly insane number kills any deal. Edmonton would have to offer me both First rounders this year, any and all second rounders they posess this year, and any and all first and second rounders they aqcuire for next year’s draft as well, to make me take on that contract.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Remember guys:
No Weiss= No Win

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Another thought, if Tallon does trade up for No.1, gotta think he’ll ship out a defensive prospect/roster player instead of a forward—no sense in him taking two steps forwards and one step back by siphoning off offensive talent.

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Another small rumor and more likely one....

Flyers move Versteeg and Carle to Florida for mid range prospect and pick(s)

by saskpantherfan on Jun 23, 2011 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t see Carle being included.. but versteeg and a 4th rounder since i dont believe fl has one with the nashville trade to florida for some prospect plus a later round pick could happen

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 23, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where from? I’d be okay with that deal.

by panthersfan27 on Jun 23, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

honestly, bring the trade on. i don’t know if carle would be included, maybe a bad contract ala Carter since they most likely need $7 million to sign Brizgolav (sorry that i most likely mispelled it). would love to see Versteeg in Florida though, he was my favorite player on the Hawks playoff run and im sure Tallon would love to sign this guy again

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by flpanther360 on Jun 23, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yay, another New Year’s Eve with Frogs

by studyaid on Jun 23, 2011 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Schedule is out:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/schedulebyseason.htm?team=fla

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

@TSNBobMcKenzie reports Jeff Carter has been traded by #Flyers to #BlueJackets .. #NHL #NHLDraft #TSN

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
Hearing CBJ gives Voracek, 1st round pick and 3rd round pick for Carter.

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course, I would never pay that much either for that contract.

by panthersfan27 on Jun 23, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats a damn good deal for PHI. Got rid of the needed cap (some of it) and got 8th pick as well as a good, cheap forward

by Colt1235 on Jun 23, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

No kidding, Holmgren is a genius

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Voracek is a fantastic young player too—I think CBJ thought he was expendable what with Calvert making some strides, but I actually could see Voracek outshining Carter as early as next season.

by Craig Fischer on Jun 23, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn, guess that means no Versteeg or Carle for us. :-/

by panthersfan27 on Jun 23, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, rumor is they want to keep leino also, so they might still want to move one of them

by Colt1235 on Jun 23, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

SON A (&( &*&^&^%. GOD *#$%@!. I really wanted Carter… not for that much because that’s like trading Booth or Weiss along with our third overall… and maybe a late round pick… for a bloated contract. But UGH he’s so good I wanted him to be a Cat.

by lipsonjeff on Jun 23, 2011 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

If his production drops off in CBJ just imagine what it would have done here. Just saying

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

And then there’s also the fact that getting rid of that contract takes away Versteeg/Carle from becoming panthers either… and even if we do get one of them… They’re not going to just hand them over as easily anymore. They’ll want a greater return since they’ve taken so much cap off already with that trade…

by lipsonjeff on Jun 23, 2011 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

ALSO

Not only did they just shed Carter and steal that trade… but they only took on a $1.something million contract in the whole trade.

by lipsonjeff on Jun 23, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

VERSTEEG TALKS

Just saw a Tweet from Lebrun saying Tallon said we haven’t aquired Versteeg… I guess that trade is heating up. Look out for Tallon to make a move there.

by lipsonjeff on Jun 23, 2011 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Exact tweet says:

“Panthers GM Dale Tallon told me he has NOT acquired Kris Versteeg. ’It’s not true,’ Tallon said.”

by lipsonjeff on Jun 23, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
Any reports of Kris Versteeg being traded to FLA are false.

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

That woulda been hella sweet though, Versteeg + 8th for our 3rd

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Eklund Hockey Buzz Eklund
Mike Richards May Have Been Traded. (e4) Stay Tuned.

HAHAHAHA! What a freaking joke

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

With 76K believers

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

GMillerTSN: Mike Richards to LA for a package including Brayden Schenn and Wayne Simmonds? Hearing from good sources that it could happen.

by lipsonjeff on Jun 23, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Whoa, Eklund could be right? Is Holmgren out his mind (not that this trade isn’t awesome but trading two established talents for unproven talents???)

by panthersfan27 on Jun 23, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forget two most established talents… THEIR TOP TWO CENTERS. They’d be going along with Giroux as their top line guy and then maybe a rookie center they’re trying to get in the draft… and maybe another free agent pickup? I don’t get it.

by lipsonjeff on Jun 23, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Briere as their top line centerman, Giroux on the second line.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hockey people all over are confirming Richards is actually in play… Are they trying to dismantle their freaking team just for Bryzgalov?

by lipsonjeff on Jun 23, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

all over bryzgalov too! he isn’t even the best goalie available this summer

by HockeyAndLoathing on Jun 23, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

OMG THEY SAID IT'S A DONE DEAL!!!

RICHARDS TO LA FOR BRAYDEN SCHENN AND WAYNE SIMMONDS!!! WTFFFF!!!!

by lipsonjeff on Jun 23, 2011 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Indeed it’s a done deal, confirmed by Pierre LeBrun and Bob Mckenzie.

Paul Holmgren has lost his mind.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 23, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

So they trade away their top two centers for 2 solid wingers… one of the most promising young centers coming into the game… the 8th overall pick and a 3rd rounder in tomorrow’s draft… and another un-named pick. They better bank on these picks.

by lipsonjeff on Jun 23, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t be surprised to see them make an offer to brad richards now..

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 23, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

I didn’t even think of that… what’s the cap situation looking like after that Richards trade? How much more did they just shed?

by lipsonjeff on Jun 23, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

they just freed up about 10million between carter and richards.. say they resign bryz for 5 a season.. and leino for about 2.. that gives them about 4mil left to play with B richards..

Get rid of Versteeg and you have roughly 7mil to play with.. I’d say B richards would sign to a contender for roughly that much.. now imagine B richards, Giroux and Schenn down the middle… ouch

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 23, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bryz will cost at least 6 mil unless Holmgren does some kind of brainwashing. And getting Brad Richards would be great, but as sought-after as he is during the FA period on July 1, they will be overpaying for him compared to Mike Richards’ contract.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 23, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brad in my opinion is better than mike, and he wants to play for a ready made contender which philly def is, with or without mike.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 23, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

TALK ABOUT BLOWING UP THE FARM TO BRING HOME THE PRIZED PIG

by HockeyAndLoathing on Jun 23, 2011 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Ok, PHI is no longer a powerhouse if you ask me.

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed.

I mean, they have Giroux who will now be seen as the star he is… and they picked up Brayden Schenn… who most likely will be a star but technically hasn’t proven anything yet. That’s a sick 1, 2 punch at center… and they picked up so good already solid NHL wingers in the process… plus some good draft picks. Hell, they could get an NHL ready player with that 8th overall tomorrow night.

by lipsonjeff on Jun 23, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

In a few seasons, they’ll be something to marvel at, but for now, we can beat them

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

What was with those Versteeg to FLA rumors?

by Colt1235 on Jun 23, 2011 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Exactly what you say they are… rumors as of now…

by lipsonjeff on Jun 23, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

just say that tallon said it didnt happen

by Colt1235 on Jun 23, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can say one thing.. Nash + Carter is looking mighty scary for anyone playing Columbus..

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 23, 2011 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Yea, if they play the entire game. The Jackets are a lot like the Cats: no real depth.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 23, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Richards+Carter was pretty fearsome too, but not anymore

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Flyers

Just shed $8+ Million in cap space… Simmonds and Voracek Both don’t count against the cap. Schenn is the only one that counted…

As Rob PKane said… they could go after BRAD Richards now… woah.

by lipsonjeff on Jun 23, 2011 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

That sounds good to me. Let them tie up massive money in Bryzgalov, Pronger and Brad Richards long-term and screw themselves over for awhile :)

by Ryan Meier on Jun 23, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

All I know is that Paul Holmgren seems to be this Mad Scientist or something.

by lipsonjeff on Jun 23, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

pronger im sure will retire within another 2 seasons.. and bryz if he is signed im sure will have a front loaded contract for about 4-5 yrs term..

I expect if they plan on making some free agent signings of some kind (if the mike trade is in fact true) that versteeg could still be on the move

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 23, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even if Pronger retires, I’m pretty sure his numbers do not come off the books, as he signed after age 35.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Hearing that Ilya Bryzgalov has signed with the Flyers.

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

TSNBobMcKenzie: Bryzgalov contract with PHI is done. 9 years, $51 million.

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 23, 2011 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Bryzgalov is not worth even close to that money. Can’t wait for that deal to blow up.

by panthersfan27 on Jun 23, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. I love seeing the Flyers mess things up this badly :)

by Ryan Meier on Jun 23, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Panthers are gonna pay Vokoun $7/mill, only way they’re hitting the cap floor

by HockeyAndLoathing on Jun 23, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 year contract if he resigns probably

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm all about this

I didn’t realize Vokoun was leaving his position. :P

by panthersfan27 on Jun 23, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, in fairness I’d love to see him retire a Panther

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think my teasing might have flown over your cuckoo’s nest. I’d love to see him re-sign as a Panther and a retire here too.

by panthersfan27 on Jun 23, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

No i caught what you were saying, been writing resign out of lazyness of using a hyphen

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

5.6 cap hit until age 40. Smart move.

by Colt1235 on Jun 23, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Giving 9 years to a goaltender who has shown absolutely nothing in games of importance? This is “elite level” money he’s getting here. Bryzgalov is a second-tier goalie at best.

by panthersfan27 on Jun 23, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh im sorry, need that sarcasm button…

by Colt1235 on Jun 23, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I figured it might be sarcasm but you never know…

by panthersfan27 on Jun 23, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s had more games of importance tho than a guy like Vokoun, or even Luongo before Rob left for the other coast.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok so the rundown is this...

Philly now acquires some picks, something they didn’t have before. Their first pick wasnt going to be until 86 overall… they now have #8 and 68 as well as the second round pick they got from LA..

They acquire a decent young depth player in simmonds as well as possibly the top prospect in the NHL in Schenn.. Solid 2-3rd liner in Voracek and freed up cap space to sign bryz.. they now have a little room to resign Leino as well as having to resign simmonds who would probably only make 800k or so..

They fixed themselves up nicely with good young talent as well as picks to stock up their prospect pool. I still expect some other form of trade to free a little cap room, the versteeg talks could still be in the works.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 23, 2011 4:57 PM EDT reply actions  

If they traded Versteeg they basically gave up 2 1st rounders for nothing, and they would have kept Richards.

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 23, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

They wouldnt have had cap room if they kept richards to sign the people they need to sign.. and I would say getting picks in return when they practically had none and someone as good as schenn is nothing

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 23, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please no versteeg, he is terrible!

by pukeoncops on Jun 23, 2011 5:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

In all honesty, versteeg isnt as good as the hype he gets sometimes.. Im just a big fan since im a partial hawks fan and loved him when he played there

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 23, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

he wasnt worth that 1st and 3rd that TOR got, but ill take him!

by Colt1235 on Jun 23, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s funny how philly managed to rip columbus and LA off in both these trades.. and in the end also screw LA in the sense of adding MORE salary to them.. Kopitar, Richards, brown, penner, Doughty due for a raise.. and in two years quick due for a raise… i sense a major explosion

On top of that.. Richards no longer #1 center? lol sucks for him

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 23, 2011 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

As per @DarrenDreger, DAL today asked Brad Richards to waive his NMC. Richards declined.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 23, 2011 6:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Sources say Robyn Regehr has been asked to waive his no-move clause and accept a trade to the Buffalo Sabres. Details to follow.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 23, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 23, 2011 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 24, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey thats where John and Liz are Donny! Sounds like they like the city

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just curious, but who are the tool bags in this pic?

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