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Ladies and gents, today is the big day we've been waiting for. After yesterday's insanity, NHL GM's will have to work hard to top the deals made yesterday afternoon, but expect to see a pretty good chunk of movement today as well. Hopefully the Panthers are involved in several of those and they are as positive for the organization as we're all hoping for.

Just as a reminder: The draft will be televised at 7 PM EST tonight on Versus, and we'll have a live chat up in case you don't have access to Versus. Also, the Panther draft parties will be taking place at Duffy's in Fort Lauderdale and North Palm Beach, so if you're able to, join some of the LBC crew to celebrate what is hopefully a very fruitful day for the Panthers.

Some links to occupy you as we wait for draft time to start (or some Tallon trade news breaks!) after the jump...

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Grand “Official” opening of duffy’s in Miami today.. they had a grand opening wednesday night by invite only but I opted not to go so I could stay home and watch the awards in peace.. Was thinking of hitting it up but to be honest if theres no draft ‘party’ there I feel I’m just going to be lost in the shuffle that is the NBA draft. NBA garbage always gets forced upon me when I go out down here because it seems to be the only sport thats easy enough to follow here.. (not trying to knock anyone) Just tired of hockey being on a back burner when it comes to going out to try to enjoy it elsewhere.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 24, 2011 9:30 AM EDT reply actions  

No kidding, wait til hockey explodes again in So. Florida again and people realize the Heat is just smoke and no fire. Then you can enjoy it!

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eric Brewer close to re-signing with Tampa

From Twitter:

RealKyper Nick Kypreos
Soon take Eric Brewer off #NHL UFA list July 1st. #TBLightning and the D man closing in on 4 year deal in ball park of 16M… Stamkos next?

by Ryan Meier on Jun 24, 2011 9:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Great signing for TB; kinda jealous of that one.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 24, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

They need to do it; he’s a rock back there for them. I’m interested to see if they keep Marc-Andre Bergeron too.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 24, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

And it is done...
GMillerTSN Gord Miller
Eric Brewer signs a four year extension with Tampa for just under $16m.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 24, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Oilers need a franchise defenseman, and Swedish prospect Adam Larsson could be that guy. But passing on Nugent-Hopkins, a center, might be impossible. And unwise.

Doesn’t matter how good your forwards are if your defense and goaltending allows 3.17 goals per game. If Edmonton stays greedy and takes a player they DO NOT need they deserve being the true laughingstock of the NHL. I don’t care what people say about Florida atleast they try to improve rather then taking someone because they feel pressured by the media and fans to do so. If Edmonton takes anyone other than Larsson in this draft their management truely needs a severe overhaul.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 24, 2011 9:46 AM EDT reply actions  

 You can sign a great defensive 1st pairing/top 4 dman on the FA market for under a million a year (see Weaver), you can’t get anywhere close to a 1st line forward for that price tag. I don’t see the issue in them going after the best player in the draft when their organizational needs can be met quite easily on the open market.

by Craig Fischer on Jun 24, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with Craig, especially because the free agency market this offseason is much thinner at forward than defense. They could pick up a guy like Andy Greene to help with depth at the blue line, and sign him for a reasonable value, and still get a top-tier forward like Nugent-Hopkins in the draft.

However, Larsson is supposedly a can’t-miss defensive prospect, and those are also as rare as top-quality forwards, so we’ll see. They could go either way, but I’m leaning towards them taking Nugent-Hopkins first overall.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 24, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

If RNH is the real deal, then they can trade one of their other centerman for a d-man, to a team badly in need of depth down the middle. Think Gagne for Ellerby type package. Regardless of needs, its always the smart play to draft the best player available, otherwise if you draft by need, you end up with a Petr Taticek.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Nugent-Hopkins is not available, Tallon will take Landeskog. If Landeskog is not available, Tallon will take Huberdeau. Any of the three would be great for the Cats, but I’m rooting for Landeskog, as I think he’s the real deal.

Just my $0.02.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 24, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Assuming we pick Landeskog, you think he’ll crack the lineup come fall?

I know Tallon an Co. are big on not rushing the kids….but I’d love to see our first rounder on the team this season.

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 24, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m all about the “not rushing him” philosophy, but if the guy is ready, he’s ready.

Pimp him up and down the tri-county area through the summer, ala Seen Stamkos and Tavarez.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 24, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would be interesting. I would think Landeskog is definitely ready and possibly Huberdeau as well. Don’t think RNH would be, though.

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 24, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Er, “Tavares”

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 24, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he’s ready, yes. But then, I’m not making those decisions :)

by Ryan Meier on Jun 24, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

If that was an option to them...

They would have done it before now, because they’ve needed defense for a long time

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 24, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

With the HOPE line could they really afford RNH in 2-3 years?

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

 HOPE can always be broken apart.

by Craig Fischer on Jun 24, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thats quite the gesture there, I’m sure fans would love it…

Pajaarvi would be the first to go I assume?

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

DarrenDreger Darren Dreger
Wpg expected to announce the name of its team just prior to making the 7th selection overall. Unconfirmed as to what the name will be. #TSN

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 24, 2011 9:47 AM EDT reply actions  

My guess is “The Winnipeg Ten year plans”. Because that’s what they’re going to come up with, while not improving and losing their team to another city in ten years, just like they did before.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 24, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 24, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hear that in my arena and I’m gonna go nuts on some people. It’s bad enough at Joe Robbie.

by jimmyh71 on Jun 24, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s kind of funny; in my world the Jets always meant Winnipeg.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 24, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Guess you didn’t know, the Jets were actually named for the NY Jets, or at least that is what was written once upon a time like 15 years ago, in one of the Panther gameday books at the Arena, when it was actually something worth buying and contained good info.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understood the original owner of the (WPG) Jets was friends with the owner of the (NY) Jets. Also heard Winnipeg has some sort of aviation history to it, but never looked into that.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 24, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just for the fact that they do want to make tons of merchandise money and haven’t committed to the Jets yet, I can’t see them going back to that. My guess is something stupid like “Werewolves” to cash in on Twilight—Winnipeg’s executives remind me of some of this teams.

by Craig Fischer on Jun 24, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

OT: LBC will soon – as in an hour or so – celebrate its biggest month ever…and there are still six days remaining.

You guys and gals rock!

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 24, 2011 10:44 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Congrats. :)

I’d get used to breaking previous records if I were you guys. Good times ahead.

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 24, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hurray!

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for having such an awesome blog! If people saw the amount of intelligent hockey discussion going on on here, they might think twice about insulting us Panthers fans (especially those of us like myself who played hockey in one form or another for a long time).

by panthersfan27 on Jun 24, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Happy Draft Day everyone! Here’s an article that I found on the Cats website about Drew Shore’s brother possibly getting drafted today: http://panthers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=566988&navid=DL|FLA|home

- Go Panthers -

by flpanther360 on Jun 24, 2011 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Nice.

Zach Hyman’s brother Spencer is eligible next year. His nickname: The Bus.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 24, 2011 11:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Could you imagine if the Flyers had one of those “guess the team’s roster for opening night” contests going on? I don’t think anyone would have won.

I want Larrson. Larrson-Gudbranson is a top line D pair that you can’t find in free agency or trades and I hope they are our Keith-Seabrook, Weber-Suter, Doughty-Johnson of the future.

by roywhitby on Jun 24, 2011 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Like the Oilers for forwards, defense is where we have the most depth in the organization. We have lots of really solid to elite prospects from Gunbrandson, Petrovic, and Robak to name a few as well as guys like Adam Comrie who provide us good organizational depth and have the potential to be fill-in defensemen/AHL guys. Larsson would be the rich getting richer. We need scoring right now more than we need the defensive prospect, especially with good stable of talent at the NHL level already.

by panthersfan27 on Jun 24, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, the Panthers aren’t possessing ELITE prospects. Soild yeah, but there’s no elite except maybe Gudbranson in that group.

And you go with BPA. Best player available. Taticek was a draft by need player, and how did that work out? Stewart was a draft by need player.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Huberdeau, RNH, and Landeskong are all so good as offensive prospects that Larsson simply isn’t better enough to discount that. Larsson is not a generational talent, just an elite one. If he was generational, then by all means, bring on the next Bobby Orr.

by panthersfan27 on Jun 24, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t be disappointed if we end up with RNH or a forward but I think that elite puck moving D is so hard to find and none of our prospects fit that profile.

by roywhitby on Jun 24, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our last can’t miss defensive prospect was Bouwmeester. Just putting that out there.

by panthersfan27 on Jun 24, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Bouwmeester was a good, and at times, great, player for us. Maybe I upsold Larsson as a “can’t-miss” because anybody can miss but for 18 year olds, Larsson is one of the better “sure thing” picks in a while.

by roywhitby on Jun 24, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bouwmeester was good but he never lived up to his billing. We desperately need offensive prospects as we have no real elite talent. Our only elite level talent is Gudbranson and Markstrom.

by panthersfan27 on Jun 24, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, because he was developed correctly and allowed to make mistakes, like a kid usually does. I still say Ray Whitney said it best, some organizations put a kid on track for failure cause they want them to fail.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel a lot better and optimistic for Bjustad and Howden than I do Petrovic, Robak and the other D prospects. Plus we do have Weiss and Booth for 3 more years.

by roywhitby on Jun 24, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

AMERKS TO BE BOUGHT BY SABRES TODAY

Step one in getting new affilaition should be complete. KO says taht Portland will have presser today too about this, but not likely to announce Panthers as affiliation, puts it 75/25 we dont go there.

by saskpantherfan on Jun 24, 2011 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Chicago Wolves have a press conference too. I don’t know if it is an affiliation agreement or not.

by roywhitby on Jun 24, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

This one should be interesting.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 24, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two teams need an affiliate now, Nucks and Panthers. I can see the Nucks wanting the Chicago team, cause of O’Hare airport.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, we finally might get an aflliate then. I think buffalo is making a mistake. why fix somethign that aint broken in portland.

by Hawkseye on Jun 24, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cause nothing was broken in Rochester until the Panthers arrived. Previous ownership just looked to make a quick buck by selling the Amerks.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember reading that they had one today to annoucne that, should be interesting to see, as I expect it to be the Canucks. Pirates may as well announce us.

by saskpantherfan on Jun 24, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the update!

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

RT @DarrenDreger: Correction. Secret is out. Wpg Jets returns.

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 24, 2011 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

its kind of silly if that is the case. the jets were not a very “winning” club, why not start anew

by Hawkseye on Jun 24, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well. If the cats were relocated right now and came back after a decade, I would still want them named the Panthers. Just me, though.

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 24, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cause it’ll piss a lot of the local fanbase off, kinda like if the Cleveland Browns had named themselves the Cleveland Steamers instead.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

And for the record, a Cleveland Steamer, is actually a steamer used in kitchens made by a company named Cleveland.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

:D

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 24, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont know, I would start over and name it something new. Dont jinx yourself.

by Hawkseye on Jun 24, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glad that they’re called the Jets again, couldn’t imagine them being anything other than the Jets.

- Go Panthers -

by flpanther360 on Jun 24, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Always thought their minor league affiliate should be called “Props”

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 24, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

TSNRyanRishaug:
Oiler scouting meetings are done, they have decided on their pick. Obviously they’re not tipping hand. #tsn

This wait is excruciating. I wish I had work to do today.

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 24, 2011 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Could be worse. You could be sitting in a hospital waiting for this to start, or sitting at home and unable to sleep, so you can go to hospital later and watch it.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Richards and no trade clause

I found it very interesting that Richards would not waive his no trade clause for Dallas. What does it matter? He is a UFA either way?

by Hawkseye on Jun 24, 2011 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

It was rumored he was going to be shipped to Toronto. If that’s the case, I don’t blame him for not waiving it.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 24, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

But only for a week…..why not help your former club a bit

by Hawkseye on Jun 24, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea but we all know the media backlash if he didn’t sign with the Leafs once acquired. Perhaps he wanted to avoid that?

by Ryan Meier on Jun 24, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agreed with this. Richards doesn’t have to sign anywhere, he isn’t signing in Dallas if Dallas is shopping him so why not look good and let your rights be traded?

by roywhitby on Jun 24, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but he might only do it for two teams, assuming PHI was one of his original 3.

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Update on Captain Canada
GMillerTSN Gord Miller
Hearing that Calgary is closing in on a deal for Ryan Smyth. He waives his no-trade and the Flames give up a late round pick.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 24, 2011 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Late round pick for Smyth? That line of Smyth-Jokinen,-Iginla is just destined to bust imo.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

No kidding, I cant see that working out.

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was weird for Edmonton to see Smyth in an Islanders/Avs/Kings jersey. Could you imagine the reaction there if he comes out of the tunnel in a Flames jersey? I don’t even know if the Flames fans will cheer for him.

by roywhitby on Jun 24, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was a good player in Colorado, Sherman did a horrible job trading him though.

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love me some Ryan Smyth but if he plays for the Flames it would be the equivalent of seeing Derek Jeter in a Red Sox uniform.

by roywhitby on Jun 24, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

PHI trying to trade up to #2….

by Colt1235 on Jun 24, 2011 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

@FredPoulin98

dont know how credible the source is. just a rumor, but a likely one

by Colt1235 on Jun 24, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holmer pulls it off, and he’s my freakin hero. I already have a mancrush on him, for how he turned that team around from that abysmal year a few seasons back that cost Hitchcock and Clarke their jobs.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Average age of Philly’s forwards now is just under 26. They get rid of Shelley and its closer to 25. That team just might be scary good for years to come, without people realizing the talent they actually have. That’s not even including Schenn or this year’s pick on the roster.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Has anyone found a pic of the new jersey yet?

by jimmyh71 on Jun 24, 2011 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Come on, you can wait a few more hours cant you? Orgs. are very good about keeping jerseys from leaking

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is from the "We See Red" campaign


It’s probably a practice jersey though.

Fish, Heatles, Cats, Fins, Noles

by National Mario on Jun 24, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely a practice jersey.

by panthersfan27 on Jun 24, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

OTTAWA SUN: Bruce Garrioch reports Murray would like to move up in the entry draft but won’t part with defenseman Erik Karlsson and the sixth overall pick to do it. The Senators would also like to move Filip Kuba and Sergei Gonchar.

Spector’s

I’d do that for Ottawa’s two picks and maybe a first next year, for a year of Kuba and bring him home, and two of Gonchar. Gonchar could mentor Kulikov a bit on the PP unit.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d take Kuba but not Gonchar.

by panthersfan27 on Jun 24, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two years of Gonchar, potentially only one, if the new CBA agreement gives a buyout period similar to ‘05 (with no long term salary cap implications? I think it’d pay off gloriously if they can hit on draft picks, like we think they did last year.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know. If we are going to have an older defenseman I’d rather it be someone like Jovocop. Kuba plays a solid game.

by panthersfan27 on Jun 24, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d prefer Jovo as well, but if I’m gettin four picks for those two players and only the #3 overall is all I lose to move down 3 spots, I think it’d be insane to not take Gonchar for a year or two.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

But there is no way Bryan Murray is that stupid. Is there?

by panthersfan27 on Jun 24, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

He wants Gaborik or a player of that caliber and needs to move salary. So he gives up second round picks to the Cats, one for each player’s contract, and two first to move up three spots. Its really not that insane. Just out of the box thinking.

And did you forget some of his trades as Panthers GM? He really is that crazy when he’s desperate.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, Ottawa has three second round picks. I’d take their #35 pick and push for #48 unless it was a deal breaker and take #61. Turning one pick into four in the first two rounds would be phenomenal.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

MapleLeafs Toronto Maple Leafs

The #Leafs have added Rick Dudley to it’s management team. More to come

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow. Steal for the Leafs.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 24, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Things are looking up for the waffles

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

tsnjamesduthie: Dudley does not have a title yet, “premier talent evaluator” according to Brian Burke

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

They need it since they trade away all their first round picks to the Bruins.

BAZING

by Ryan Meier on Jun 24, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Burke is a smart man. He might have just found the most passionate scout in the game.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. I did not like him as a chief decision maker in FLA but he is an excellent assistant GM/head of scouting hire.

by roywhitby on Jun 24, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

He really got a raw deal in Florida, being saddled with Keenan as coach for a little more than a year, Cohen wanting instant gratification while Keenan always talkin in his ear, and then Dudley tellin Cohen he didn’t know squat about hockey above being a casual fan. Last time this organization was headed in the right direction was when Dudley was the GM.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not so sure about that. It’s not like the drafts he managed turned out that well. A scout like him should have given us a few more late round finds. I’m also irrational over not keeping the #1 pick in 03 and picking Eric Staal but that is because you always take the Peterborough Pete over the Oshawa General (Horton).

by roywhitby on Jun 24, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Horton was picked because of Keenan, as was Stewart that sacrificed two early second round picks in an unbelievable deep draft. Dudley gets the bad rep because of tryin to draft Ovechkin a year before being eligible, but that was at Cohen’s behest. The man got a raw deal.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought trying to pick Ovie a year early was really smart. I just think everybody from Murray to Dudley to Fletcher to Keenan to Martin sucked. It is probably irrational but I’m fine with that.

by roywhitby on Jun 24, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

The constant upheaval is what sucked. No one got enough time to prove themselves after Murray, and a lot of his last few years was a mandate because of tryin to sell the team. Huzenga used the Cats as collateral to start Autonation, in a roundabout way after selling stock in the Panthers.

Anyone her buy shares of the Panthers back then? Just curious.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Further to Affiliation News:

Buffalo and Rochester pairing now official…

Rumor is that Portland to be taken over by Phoenix….
Wolves affilaition announcement on Monday….

Known NHL Teams needing Affiliation: PHX, FLA, VAN
Known AHL Teams available: SA, CHW, POR

by saskpantherfan on Jun 24, 2011 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Florida back to San Antonio? Who does Tallon think he is? Dudley refused to come back south.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

BTW, if Florida affiliates with San Antonio and Torchetti doesn’t have an NHL assistants’ job, expect him to be named head coach for the Blue Bulls.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I’m ever the solo winner of a major powerball lotto, I’m buyin the Panthers and makin myself GM. Or at least be an annoying bitch like Cohen always was to the GMs. except I have more of a clue towards reality.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 3:06 PM EDT reply actions  

¿ʎɐpoʇ uʍop ǝpısdn plɹoʍ ʎǝʞɔoɥ ǝɥʇ uɹnʇ oʇ uollɐʇ ɹoɟ ǝlqıssod ʇı sı

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Full of tricks up your sleeve eh?

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its amazing the things you find when sitting on your ass for 17 hours a day and tryin to find a reason to stay awake at work, and nothing to do but sit on a computer.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Dadonov would be willing to legally change his name to Jet Blue Flyboy in a new Yormark marketing scheme, ala Ron Artest/ Chad Ochocinco. God I hope I didn’t give that man a new idea of how to sell advertising space.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

SHUT UP SHUT UP!!!

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I need sleep. L O L

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 24, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Donny and I have both been saying that the reason there’s no preseason schedule yet is that they’re fishing for a sponsor.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 24, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm…Prudential Life Insurance Panthers Preseason?

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another trade
TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
As per @DarrenDreger, Leafs acquire J M Liles from COL for 2nd rd pick.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 24, 2011 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Sherman is worse than Martin. This proves it.

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

So Larsson to Colorado now?

by panthersfan27 on Jun 24, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe. The Avs have been trying to move Liles for a long, long time now.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 24, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Without reason. JML should have been captain this year

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

They have to now. Liles was hands down their best defenseman.

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ummmm

Anyone know what he’s talking about?

“hfialkov Harvey Fialkov
#Panthers cking on Booth trade rumors!”

by kSelvig on Jun 24, 2011 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

There’s a rumor that Booth and the 3rd pick go to EDM for the 1st overall. Seems bogus to me, but I’ve heard it twice today.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 24, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is a horrible rumor…

by kSelvig on Jun 24, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

We can agree that Booth + #3 is too much to move up two spots right? Difference between RNH and Huberdeau/Landeskog is not equal to one David Booth.

by roywhitby on Jun 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup, Booth = #30 is more like it. Doubt Tallon would trade on of our top scorers

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Further to Dreger’s scoop on Liles to Toronto trade, the second-round draft pick is for 2012, not this year

Does anyone wonder why I think Sherman is a dumbass?

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Nope. If the Chris Stewart trade didn’t make people a believer, I don’t know what it would take.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 24, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I seriously doubt those Booth rumors have any legitimacy

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

TheRatTrick: OnFrozenPond: The ‘new’ #FlaPanthers jersey http://t.co/aaQNldl

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 24, 2011 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Would like to see it on someone it actually fits correctly, but I think I like it.

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 24, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

not impressed.

not really sure it’s an improvement.

by jimmyh71 on Jun 24, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

NOOOO

Didn’t think they could ruin it. But…

http://yfrog.com/h8321gij

by kSelvig on Jun 24, 2011 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I think it looks better than what we currently have TBH.

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 24, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn, no piping…

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure thats real???

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 4:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Doubt GR would tweet it otherwise at a time like this, but who knows, he’s a funny guy :)

by Ryan Meier on Jun 24, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, GR usually doesn’t screw around

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

and it’s a long way to go for a joke. looks legit to me.

by jimmyh71 on Jun 24, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

can’t decode the name on the back. I wonder how it’ll look on someone who can fill it (no offense to the lucky kid…)

by jimmyh71 on Jun 24, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I cant make it out either. almost want to say Dineen

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it’ll definitely look better on someone who can fill it out lol.

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 24, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hella bunch of rain on way down! Panther peeps setting up around duffys; there’s a shirtless mannequin 10 feet from me.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 24, 2011 4:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Hurry up and throw a Mike Richards Flyers jersey on it, since they’re worthless now.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 24, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would be very surprised to see COL NOT take Larsson. Then again, the GM is an idiot.

by Colt1235 on Jun 24, 2011 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

They could really use a guy like Landeskog to replace Chris Stewart. Both are similar power-forward type players. Who knows though? I agree with you, for a team that was as bad as they were defensively and in net, Larsson is the smart choice.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 24, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

and especially since they just traded JML. But then again, they have the 11th pick so they could get a D man there

by Colt1235 on Jun 24, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

FINALLY someone gets it!

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That the ’lanche needs a forward, or that the GM is an Idiot?

by OldDave on Jun 24, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

The GM is an idiot, without doubt…

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, I’m doing the writeup on the new jerseys, and I’d like to know what you guys think of them. Pure and simple opinion of the new reds.

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 24, 2011 4:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe it’ll look better on a player in pads, but… initial reaction is disappointment. And I can’t say what it was I was expecting, but I guess this wasn’t it, lol

by kSelvig on Jun 24, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

But I do like it better than the JetBlues at least.

by kSelvig on Jun 24, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not as good as I had hoped but so much better than the Baby Pens jerseys. Love having red as a primary color again and I assume the Jersey will look better in better lighting. The shoulders do look almost ridiculously dark, though.

by panthersfan27 on Jun 24, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the omission of the piping all over the front.
I love the red, obviously.
Not too sure I like the lack of a stripe or two at the bottom of the sweater. Ending in red just looks a little too plain.

Overall it’s a 9/10 from me. Substantially better than what we had.

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 24, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

what could you have all possibly expected? it’s pretty much exactly the same, but red instead of navy and with no stick.

sometimes i just think the organization can’t do anything right because there’s always someone mad about something they did.

by alterego6487 on Jun 24, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

that being said, i love it.

by alterego6487 on Jun 24, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m assuming that wasn’t a reply to me. :)

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 24, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like I said, I wasn’t expecting to see the original jersey, but the lack of any striping just makes it look kind of practice jersey-ish, and the shoulders don’t look right, too dark\too big? I dunno, just kind of looks like those “replicas” you see on ebay, not professional.

And again, maybe with the pads underneath on a guy who weighs more than 80lbs, it’ll work better. But that’s my initial reaction to seeing it.

by kSelvig on Jun 24, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh, they took the old home jersey and swapped the arm striping and primary color.

by JDMorris on Jun 24, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think if you look closely at the picture of Kulikov on the Panthers home page that he’s actually wearing the new jersey, the fact that the colors are off and the new jersey looks like an inverted version of the old jersey would make it look quite mundane in comparison to the existing stuff.

by JDMorris on Jun 24, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

From OFP
IF #FlaPanthers deal David Booth to #Oilers for top pick, hearing team gets back Sheldon Souray (and his big contract) among other stuff…don’t see it happening

by panthersfan27 on Jun 24, 2011 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

more...
Again, DO NOT think #FlaPanthers are trading David Booth to move up; still could move tho…no trade kicks in July 1 and he’s due 4 yrs @ $4.25 per

by panthersfan27 on Jun 24, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh God, my stomach is churning. I DO NOT want that deal to happen.

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