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Tomas Vokoun's final day under contract with the Florida Panthers? Will Ryan Carter and Sergei Samsonov be given a longer look by the Cats next year? And what the devil ever happened to Marty Reasoner?

FYI: Tomorrow will feature a day-long Unrestricted Free Agency Open Thread beginning at 10am

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Morning ladies and gents.

So how about Erhoff’s rights being passed around the NHL.

What are our target UFA’s looking like at this point?

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 30, 2011 9:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Jovo!

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Only element of last year’s UFA Day which squeaked it past the other options for me was the eleventh-hour Olli Bomb dropped by Calgary. The stuff of television gold.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

High drama, indeed…but tt will all be for nothing…he’ll stay in TB.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have had about 15 people come up to me and ask, “Do you think the Flyers will do an offer sheet?”

by Ryan Meier on Jun 30, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Homer’s done it before, so there is precedent.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

He can’t afford him, not with what he’s paying Bryzgalov. That’s why Carter got exiled to Columbus.

"We don't need the designated goon. Those fights aren't even fun to watch." -Mike Milbury

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by John Beatty on Jun 30, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carter got exiled not because of his pay, but because of being a locker room cancer. Ownership got tired of his antics. He was Philadelphia, the city’s, playboy.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 30, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, somebody had to get exiled because of the money. So, they picked Richards and Carter for problems other than the amount of their contracts instead of Matt Carle and Kris Versteeg. The point still stands. Philly doesn’t have the cap space to sign Stamkos.

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by John Beatty on Jun 30, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Philly really has no need for Stamkos, tbh. Not with Giroux, Briere, Powe, Betts, and now Couturier. They can sign a 3rd/ 4th line inexpensively and not have a problem, as they have enough talent to cover the wings as well.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 30, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

tomorrow's going to be interesting...

The free agent frenzy seems kind of like musical chairs with money and no common sense. Later on some GMs will realize it wasn’t musical chairs after all, but Russian roulettte.

by jimmyh71 on Jun 30, 2011 9:41 AM EDT reply actions  

it wasn’t musical chairs after all, but Russian roulettte.

As the current CBA draws to a close next year? You bet.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you guys think we’ll need to acquire another D-man? Is it just in case something happens with Guds?

Campbell – Guds
Garrison – Weaver
Ellerby – Kulikov

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 30, 2011 9:53 AM EDT reply actions  

There’s a chance he could be signed and given a stint in the ahl, an actual professional league with later callups. Plus there’s no saying garrison or ellerby will be back if they can be used as trade bait if we acquire another top tier dman

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

There’s no chance of him being given a stint in the AHL. Its Panthers or juniors, period.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 30, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because keeping him in a league he has no chance of developing in because he’s already above their playing ability while he’s already under contract (assuming he’s signed before the season and given a chance to make the team) wouldnt be a waste of a season for him at all..

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, because there are age limit restrictions that guarantee a player under 20 yrs of age returns to the juniors and NOT the AHL. Learn something about the business man. Without the restrictions, the AHL would be flooded with junior hockey players.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 30, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Since I had read it before I went back to check myself..

Directly from the AHL site and it’s rules..

Per AHL By-Laws, the age limit for eligibility to compete in the American Hockey League is 18 years or over, on or before September 15 of each season of competition

The only exception of this is if the player is currently playing in the CHL, because they have a deal currently with the AHL stating that..

A player from the CHL has to either turn 20 by December 31st of the season (ie a player born in 1987 can start playing in the 2007-08 season, a player born in 1988 can start playing in the 2008-09 season etc.) OR have completed 4 seasons of junior eligibility. This agreement also covers European players if they are drafted out of the CHL Also – CHL players are eligible to play in the AHL once their junior season is over (either by virtue of their junior team not making the playoffs or being eliminated from the playoffs) even if they don’t yet meet the age or eligibility criteria listed above.

College players and European players (provided they are drafted out of Europe—even if they later play in the CHL) are not covered by this agreement. They only have to abide by the AHL’s age requirement, which is that a player has to turn 18 by September 15 of any given season to be eligible to play. While you won’t see many 18-year olds in the AHL, some European players have played at that age.

Homework done (Took the advice of Mr. Yormark) and schooling done as well.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Schooling. Gudbranson’s birthday is after January 1st and he’s only played three years of juniors. So he’d be junior’s bound. Thank you young one. Don’t just study reading, but also reading comprehension.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 30, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s already over the age of 18 and not playing the the CHL

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

from my understanding atleast..

of all the things i had been told in the past.. the two were completely different entitiies

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

A player from the CHL has to either turn 20 by December 31st of the season (ie a player born in 1987 can start playing in the 2007-08 season, a player born in 1988 can start playing in the 2008-09 season etc.) OR have completed 4 seasons of junior eligibility. CHL = Canadian Hockey League, or the junior leagues. Not the po dunk hockey league from the central US called the Central Hockey League. WOW, no clue where Portland Pirates play and now no idea what the CHL means. There needs to be smilies on this website and a facepalm for this kid.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 30, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just to clarify for you, the Western Hockey League (Plays in Northwestern USA and western Canada, including Portland, Oregon with the Winterhawks), the Ontario Hockey League (of which Gudbranson currently plays in), and the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League (Play in Quebec and the Martimes in Canada) are the three main entities that make up the CHL or Canadian Hockey League. Then you have smaller junior leagues like the Alberta Junior Hockey League and the British Columbia Junior Hockey League that don’t play for the Memorial Cup.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 30, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Enough sparring…we all get the picture.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not everyone is immediately aware of the ins-and-outs of the various leagues/CBAs. Onward.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

dude, you are such a snob. no need for these jabs that you take at everyone.

by milhouse on Jun 30, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

not directed at Donny. . . you’re the man!

by milhouse on Jun 30, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tallon stated yesterday that he wants to get two more “top-notch” d-men via free agency if he can.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 30, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not surprised. I think they really want Petrovic and Gudbranson to spend another year in juniors. They want this team to come together this year and then introduce those guys into that atmosphere. Which, frankly, makes more sense than rushing them into the NHL. And starting the year with a viable 7-man D-corps is not a bad idea. Ellerby has earned the one-way contract, but he should still be in a position to earn his minutes. That will make him a better player.

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by John Beatty on Jun 30, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Defensemen take longer to develop than forwards, so let them develop in the CHL, save the year of the ELC, and bring them into a winning environment. It worked for Ottawa’s AHL year when they won the Calder this year.

by Alexander Calloway on Jun 30, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im not usually one for rfa offers because of the cost of draft picks but as u look at the stats of stamkos and can safely assume they’ll continue as he’s still young.. id say the value of a player his calibur would be well worth 4 firsts, even if all 4 fall around pick 10 which from the sound of tallon he no longer wants to be picking there.. this would be how I see it, 5yrs at 10mil, 4yrs at 8mil, 3yrs at 6mil, 3yrs at 5mil.. 15yrs 115mil. That would put him as a panther until he’s roughly 36 with later yr cap hits not being nearly as bad as his value in his prime yrs we would get out of him..

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m all for it, until TB pulls out a surprise last minute signing. They got Roloson under contract for another year now. I’m starting to like the chances of Vokoun staying better, since the only options seem to be Colorado or Phoenix.

by studyaid on Jun 30, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

the reason the Panthers should do something like that would be to cripple the Lightning at the very least. We are one of the few teams that actually has the money necessary to try and outbid the Lightning for Stamkos, but Stevie Y has stated multiple times that he will match any offer. If i’m Dale, I put in a similar offer that Rob suggested. EIther the Lightning match it, and then must pay a ridiculous cap hit which they can ill afford, or we get him and pay that ridiculous cap hit.

by alterego6487 on Jun 30, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s exactly the reasoning, should he not be signed by tomorrow what this offer does is cause them to sign him at it (of course assuming he accepts it) which would really hurt them. The cap hit at 10 mil alone would put them at 7mil under cap removing their chances of signing brad richards and slimming their chances of resigning gagne. Also take into concidering the fact that hedman will be an RFA after next season and they will most likely be resigning him for anywhere between 5-6mil per season..

Bottom line is if he accepts our offer and he accepts it, TB matches it and takes a 10mil cap hit. Leaving them unable to resign gagne or any other free agents this off season because they will want to save the space for next season when they need to resign hedman. Basically it blocks any chances for our devision rival to improve where as it gives us more free agents on the market to throw offers at. Even though I highly doubt we’d be in the running for Richards it still leaves gagne on the table. And hurts them next year as well as they look for a #1 goalie to sign along with hedman.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would do WONDERS for finally creating a rivalry

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anything to increase interest in those intra-state games is worth the price.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just imagine road tripping to tampa starting florida chants in their building only to have their team respond…

them flocking down here for games attempting chants only to have us finally drown them out.. thats one rivalry we can get off the ground again where our fans actually wont’ be outnumbered.. eventually word will spread and more and more cats fans will emerge at games.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vokoun

Assuming we don’t get a deal done who is out there to replace him? Clemmer is not an option for #1 in my opinion and Jacob needs another year in the AHL…

by Robert Wright on Jun 30, 2011 10:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Not much out there. Mostly over-the-hill starters and a plethora of so-so backups.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Emery would be the best choice available after vokoun unfortunately, which is why i pencil him in as our signee should he not return.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m just not sold on post-Ottawa Emery; yes he had a nice little run with ANH following a grueling rehab, but his off-ice attitude issues – so well publicized a few years back – may be a big detriment, especially on a club that doesn’t need a hothead in the dressing room.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

And I’m sure that attitude is something Tallon would make clear he’s not going to put up with as well as Dineen. Could in some senses hurt us by playing Clemmenson as our #1 but at the same time he has shown signs of taking over the helm such as his year in NJ when needed to.. Hell, tossing him on waivers and him not getting picked up may even be a wake up call to him that he needs to get his shit straight, and if it’s not and he clears waivers he get buried in the AHL where chances are he’d never return to the nhl, not on good terms atleast.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Option C for vokoun loss

What about Mathieu Garon? Decent numbers, not much to complain about. Would be a great stop gap for the next year. Sharing time with Clemmer.

by Joel Masson on Jun 30, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also have the potential for Pascal LeClaire, who only three seasons ago, was the hot young goalie and future of the Bluejackets, before injuries.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 30, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

snake bitten, not a change on LeClaire.

by Joel Masson on Jun 30, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cheap contract, one or two years length. Brian Elliott, Dale Ellis. There’s options out there for guys who put on decent performances in split duty ice time. Losing Vokoun wouldn’t be the biggest loss, unless management is starting to have doubts about Markstom.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 30, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry but i disagree, Garon is a much better choice than either of those. Elliot floundered in Ottawa and Colorado, and Ellis couldn’t even hold on to a back up role in TB

by Joel Masson on Jun 30, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t rate them in order of who is the best option. Just mentioning, there are plenty of options out there.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 30, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Giguere. He’ll take a pay cut no matter where he goes. Hedberg or Theodore for a year wouldn’t be terrible. No point in signing Pascal Leclaire unless the intent is to get Markstrom some prime NHL bench time behind Clemmensen while Leclaire is injured.

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by John Beatty on Jun 30, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

please not Giggy. he is terribly slow. Massive mistake if they do sign him. We need goailes that will bail out our D.

by Joel Masson on Jun 30, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’m starting to have this feeling that tomorrow will be rather uneventful for us folk.

my top two UFA’s I want Dale to get: Talbot, Wisnewski

by alterego6487 on Jun 30, 2011 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Gagne, Cole and Kaberle are the prefered choices. A bit of offensive help as well as leadership, playoff experience, and stanley cup experience in all 3 of them.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gagne and Cole i’d be down with, i think Kaberle would be way too expensive and not worth it. we can only overpay one blue-liner. think about what Kaberle did in the playoffs…..

shouldn’t take you too long, cuz it wasn’t much.

by alterego6487 on Jun 30, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wiz will get a contract with CBJ. Talbot’s a bit tougher to foresee.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

hence why i want them so bad, because i know its unlikely!

by alterego6487 on Jun 30, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

one more: what do you think about putting an offer sheet in for a guy like Ryan Callahan? especially if the Rangers get Richards…

by alterego6487 on Jun 30, 2011 10:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Got to think Callahan is a top priority for the Rags, regardless of Richards. Kid’s just now hitting his prime.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

is there a better nickname than the Rags? love it.

by alterego6487 on Jun 30, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I could see Tallon making a play for Ladd, if anyone, to an offer sheet. Plays left side, big body. Good character.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 30, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

WPG not going to fire their captain.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tallon with money plus a love of his former players. He just might offer the kid something True North can’t afford at such a quick moment in time.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 30, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

We did and he’s a free agent now. wonder where he ends up?

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by hcm on Jun 30, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

OT, at least to the Free Agency market

Anyone secure season tickets yet? And were there any price hikes from last season?

I paid 20 bucks a seat last season and now my agent is quoting me at $31. I don’t know if I should try to hassle the price down or if there is a general increase in ticket pricing this season.

I’d appreciate some info from any of you. :)

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 30, 2011 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Haggle! Our original invoice was almost double what we payed last year. We (collectively as a row) spoke to them, got the price back to where it should be, and renewed.

by studyaid on Jun 30, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

The B&C section is back together?!

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 30, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mostly. I’m holding out until my concerns are addressed by management. I’m not holding my breath waiting for this, so am expecting my hockey budget to be spent on more road games this year.

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by John Beatty on Jun 30, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eric won’t be there

by studyaid on Jun 30, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got a 13 game plan up in the B&C section, it wasn’t bad pricewise but I don’t remember the exact amount. They should grandfather in your previous price, I’ve had success in doing that in the past.

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by coasterg on Jun 30, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re-signings

Oshie (STL) – 1yr, $2.35M

Smid (EDM) – 2yr, figures not announced

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 10:43 AM EDT reply actions  

High Risk, High Reward FA

Tomas Fleischmann. He could easily be a 25 goal scorer, on a top line where he gets lots of ice time. The draw back being he might not be recovered from his pulmonary emboli. Look at his stats from when he arrived in Colorado, 21 points in 22 games. If this guy is going to be healthy for training camp, then i say pay him the green.

by Joel Masson on Jun 30, 2011 10:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Your title is spot-on.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

also interested in this guy.

by alterego6487 on Jun 30, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

maybe we should just focus on all the Tomas’s to build our team. Not a bad start so far. Last year I felt Volky was over the hill and over priced but at this point for one year he’d be worth whatever he wants. Problem is he’s not going to sign anywhere for less than three years as he’s in the drivers seat now and knows he probably won’t be again. From what I hear his kids are really happy hear and he doesn’t want to have them change schools again if possible. I just can’t understand what the hold up is in negotiations. Either he wants to stay here in which case we can and probably have offered him anything he wants or he wants to hit free agency and compare. I think he also sees his chances of making the playoffs for the other teams looking for goalies is no better than hear and that Dale is building something here now. If he doesn’t sign a trade may be our best bet.

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by hcm on Jun 30, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really felt bad for Flash when he want down, he was simply tearing up COL with Dutchy and had the whole world in his hands. Flash’s condition is the true cause of the Avs downfall. I’d take him if they dont resign him.

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 30, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice story on Garrett Wilson here

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 10:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Good stuff from Clark at Raw Charge here, re: Stamkos

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

I like it, but the Bolts should still panic about the Cats signing him to an offer sheet. :-)

by studyaid on Jun 30, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

@TSNBobMcKenzie: Regarding rumors of CGY asking JBo to waive NMC, GM Jay Feaster: “No truth to it. He hasn’t been asked.”

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

And no one has asked for him.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

How far he has fallen.

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by panthersfan27 on Jun 30, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Panthers wouldn’t even take him back. People are calling for an old Jovonovski over the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man.

by studyaid on Jun 30, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This ^

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

ROFL! +1

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by coasterg on Jun 30, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right along with his scoring stats

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

And people were calling Campbell a bust!

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 30, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

hope he’s enjoying playing for a contender in that hockey market he wanted so badly

by alterego6487 on Jun 30, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bouwmeester would flourish in Philly with Pronger lighting a fire under his ass. I’d be worried about a Bouwmeester- Meszaros pairing, if it happened. And then he played juniors with Coburn.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 30, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d love Philly to pick-up his contract because their cap situation would be further screwed.

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by panthersfan27 on Jun 30, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Preseason

Did anyone read about the double header pre-season game against the Preds? I love the comment underneath about nothing is more exciting than 6 hours of pre-season hockey.

by studyaid on Jun 30, 2011 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

I went with the draft, the prospect hype, the tanking, the lotto and trades and all that isnt rivaled by UFA day in my opinion, especially for a rebuilding team

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 30, 2011 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

So just got off the phone with my agent

He says the first game in the preseason double header is a rookie exhibition, with the second game being the active roster matchup.

Also says they’re pretty much done signing Guds, he’s gonna earn the maximum possible for ELC, they’re just trying to iron out the bonuses.

As for Vokoun, Av’s have been pursuing pretty hard, but they think he’ll go to free agency. Optimistic about resigning with Panthers now that DeBoer is out and the Campbel/Kopecky signings. Might also be waiting to see who we acquire tomorrow.

Lastly, the club is optimistic about Huberdeau making the team come Fall. They haven’t thrown out the possibility.

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 30, 2011 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Awesome! Hope those are all true and aren’t being used as marketing tactics

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 30, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well I asked him all this after I renewed, so hopefully it was the truth. We’ll see!

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 30, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can you give me your agent info, mine is no longer working with them and I am considering renewing for a different section. I will miss 125!

by Robert Wright on Jun 30, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sure.

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 30, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

im also a 125-er. such a good section on nights where it isnt flooded with opposing fans.

by stopdropandbreathe on Jun 30, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

i say one of those is true

by alterego6487 on Jun 30, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yet the idea of signing stamkos to an offer sheet even if tb matches it thus ruining any future attempts to sign any other key free agents as well as resigning gagne still lives on!

Along with the thought of Danielle for you.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Danielle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Alexander Calloway on Jun 30, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The man. The Legend

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 30, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dale should have snatched him when the Avs foolishly waived him the first time.

Hockey karma exists, if we take Mauldin off of waivers it will cover Grabner. Mauldin is THAT AWESOME!!!

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 30, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

You had your chance!

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 30, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

JP Dumont is getting bought out

What happened to him? I think he might be worth a one-year contract ala Higgins.

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by panthersfan27 on Jun 30, 2011 12:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Hasn’t produced. If he signs for less than $1.5 and only a year, he’s worth the contract, but otherwise, not.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 30, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Other buyouts

Tyler Sloan (WSH)
Sheldon Souray (EDM) – No surprises here.
Mike Commodore (CBJ)
Cam Barker (MIN)

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by John Beatty on Jun 30, 2011 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Pass Dale, better things out there!

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 30, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

he’d go after barker just for the sake of doing so lol

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

1 year 1mil deal, wont hurt the team in the long run and if anything makes him compete for a roster spot, as well as makes everyone else compete harder for a spot as well.. worst case scenario is he rides the bench and fills in when needed.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Barker isn’t that bad. He was just not worth the value of his contract, that he got cause Tallon screwed up. He wouldn’t be a bad signing for less than $2 mil per, short term contract. He was never the offensive defenseman that many expected Bouwmeester or Coburn to be when Medicine Hat was churning these massive defensemen out one after another, year after year.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 30, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tell that to all the Minnesota fans that absolutely despised his play while there.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 30, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL, yeah, like Barker was the weak link on that team this year.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 30, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, but I know a lot of Minny fans who detested the effort put forth by Barker.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 30, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Preds qualifying offers

According to Kypreos, the question is whether the deadline applies to when the offers are issued versus received. Like many things, the CBA is not clear on this.

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by John Beatty on Jun 30, 2011 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

nhl_canes CAROLINA HURRICANES
Jussi Jokinen has agreed to a three-year contract with the Hurricanes: http://carhur.com/cfw

Damn, I’d have liked the other Jokinen on our team

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 30, 2011 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

You hear that sound?

It’s the sound of all the good free agents getting signed.

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 30, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like nails on a chalkboard

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 30, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sound of tallon reconsidering his quote about not picking high in the draft again?

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 30, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the sound of Tallon crappin his pants when he realizes he might have to sign Samsonov to an incredibly stupid contract to make the salary floor.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 30, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

le sigh

Jussi Jokinen signed for 3 years.

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 30, 2011 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m guessing it’ll be Tampa when they sign him to some absurd contract out of necessity.

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 30, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

No matter who signs Stamkos, he’ll be seeing green.

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 30, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Courtesy of The Rat Trick.

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 30, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Where is...

Marty Reasoner? Do the Cats even want him back? I was hoping that he might captain this upcoming squad.

by trinidaddy on Jun 30, 2011 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m sure they want him back, and I’ll bet he is perfectly willing to sign at the drop of a hat. Tallon is likely in mad scramble mode with Vokoun/RFAs right now…

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 30, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, this thread has taken off! Anyways, just saw this on espn’s site… Florida currently has the lowest payroll in the league (surprise) based on currently signed players… Of course they still have Bernier and Bitz on our “key RFA list”, but it also says we only have 13 players signed?? Can that be right? I know espn is probably 18th on a top 10 list of websites for hockey info, but wow…

30. Florida Panthers, $38.1m cap space
CAP PAYROLL: $26,125,375
PLAYERS SIGNED: 13
KEY RFAs: F Steve Bernier, F Shawn Matthias, F Byron Bitz, F Mike Santorelli
KEY UFAs: F Sergei Samsonov, F Marty Reasoner, F Darcy Hordichuk, F Ryan Carter, D Alexander Sulzer, D Joe Callahan, G Tomas Vokoun
OUTLOOK: The Panthers need to spend and spend fast. They are so far below the floor, they have to spend more than $2.2 million per player on 10 signings to reach the $48.3-million lower limit.

by kSelvig on Jun 30, 2011 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

http://capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=16

Yep, 13 players signed.

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 30, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

#FlooridaPanthers

To quote twitter.

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by panthersfan27 on Jun 30, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unreal, I knew we were low, just didn’t quite realize it until I saw the numbers, lol. Just to reach the floor, we have to spend $2.2 mil on 10 players?? Obviously, if we re-sign Vokoun, that’ll take up a good bit of it, but still….

by kSelvig on Jun 30, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember, we’re going to have to sign some veteran AHL types too, which will eat some of that cap up.

Yeah, I kinda chuckled when I wrote that too.

by badger737 on Jun 30, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scary thing for the NHL is that Tallon might need to poach RFAs just to make it reasonable.

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by panthersfan27 on Jun 30, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

theres always further trade posibilities.. which could always be good depending on the contracts acquired.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

He can sign UFA’s with stupid incentive bonuses to increase the value of every contract, without paying the cash ever.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 30, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

13 roster players, defined as guys who were regulars last year. We have a number of other players including prospects signed as well. That includes Steven Reinprecht and also Tim Kennedy and Michal Repik, who aren’t locks but have a good chance start with the Cats. We also have several RFAs who have been qualified and will almost certainly be signed (Matthias, Duco, Plante, Cheverie, McArdle, Santorelli). Of them, Matthias and Santorelli will make the team, while a couple of the others might be seen over the course of the season. Actually, McArdle could make the fourth line out of camp.

So, we’re looking at a realistic roster of around 18. We’re still missing a defenseman and a goalie to make 20, but it’s not quite as insane as it looks.

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by John Beatty on Jun 30, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reinprecht is still here? And has a good chance of making the roster?

by studyaid on Jun 30, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thankfully, he can be the first injury call-up from San Antonio, and counts fully against the cap.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 30, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

His salary would only count against the cap on days he’s on the NHL roster, so sending him to the minors would be counter-productive to using his contract to meet the salary floor.

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by John Beatty on Jun 30, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, they lent him to that team in Europe for the season. He’s still on the books. I won’t pretend to know what their plans are, but if they were going to buy his contract out, they would have had to do it today.

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by John Beatty on Jun 30, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they sign Vokoun an pick up a good FA that number will get much small real quick. You know Ryan Carter didn’t do so bad last year. Maybe not all that good either but he does have potential.

by trinidaddy on Jun 30, 2011 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

From what I saw last year I predict 15-20 goals out of him for ‘most improved Panther’

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 30, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I find it interesting that Varlamov is going over to the KHL. I would think some teams would have been interested. shrug

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 30, 2011 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

They’d have to trade for him. He’s not free of charge presently. If Holtby and Neuvirth don’t pan out, Varlamov will be back.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 30, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jussi Jokinen is off the market. Just re-upped with the Hurricanes.

by Todd Little on Jun 30, 2011 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

And it's said we overpaid for Kopecky...
Nick Kypreos #NHL news. Steve Montador agreeing to terms with #Blackhawks. Word is 11M over 4 yrs.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 30, 2011 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I find that to be pretty funny.

by trinidaddy on Jun 30, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

what a steal! #sarcasm

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 30, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Monty’s a good player, don’t get me wrong, but that definitely seems steep to me.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 30, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love kopecky or the idea of any hawk coming here.. but i also however think we overpaid for him, 2-2.5mil a yr would have bee a good price. i think he got 3 in order to ensure he signed before FA..

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

We overpaid slightly. And if this is what Monty got than Kopecky was not an overpayment.

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by panthersfan27 on Jun 30, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hope Blackhawk fans are happy with one Stanley Cup

Unless Stan Bowman gets fired, which isn’t likely to happen anytime soon.

by Alexander Calloway on Jun 30, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

does Jussi resigning mean less of a chance that Erik Cole will stay with Carolina? Wouldn’t mind Cole coming to Sunrise.

by Todd Little on Jun 30, 2011 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Could mean more of a chance, depends on what theyre offering cole and if they feel its fair. he now has another contract to compare it to.

Cole is on my list of people id love here, a rw with proven scoring talent.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sure CAR is willing to resign him, but as Rob said its all dependent on contract. Cole might hold the cards in this stretch of negotiations since CAR has cap floor problems too.

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 30, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just read the comments on the panthers facebook on who the fans think we should sign. I know we come up with some outrageous ideas but on there man.. l o l.

a few of them said to bring in stamkos as well as richards and to then trade for an elite winger and to offer nabokov a contract because they all seem to think vokoun is a bum.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow! I think this can only happen in the video games. LOL. Back to Erik Cole though….He’s a beast and would love to have him.

by trinidaddy on Jun 30, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

wasn’t sure of Carolina’s cap status – thanks. too bad the Panthers have all this cap space in such a weak year for UFA’s. not only that lots of other teams need to spend as well. Maybe the trade route will work out better for the Cats.

by Todd Little on Jun 30, 2011 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Anybody in Boca right now? The rainpocalypse is happening…

by JDMorris on Jun 30, 2011 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

its everywhere…coral springs too

by Colt1235 on Jun 30, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same in sunrise. I can barely see the BAC from my balcony.

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 30, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

 bad storm in Pompano too

HCM

by hcm on Jun 30, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Inbetween Boca and Pompano, and lost my power for a few minutes.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 30, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

All the way down in South Miami, too.

by angellen on Jun 30, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was just in Miami Gardens.

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by John Beatty on Jun 30, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m in Kendall and I’m hearing something on the news about 50mph winds and tornadoes or something.. wtf?

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know. Whatever it is seems to have blown out, but it was pretty bad while it was here.

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by John Beatty on Jun 30, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Got it in Wellington about an hour ago. Massive wall of water.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think its the man upstairs showing his anger at Volkoun not singing his contract yet!

HCM

by hcm on Jun 30, 2011 3:50 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

LOL

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jun 30, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good afternoon folks

Checking in from the mean streets of Wellington and parts north. Got to be some action on tap at some point in the near future. I mean, please!

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 4:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

And just like that, the sky got dark, temp dropped, and wind picked up. Bumpy ride ahead.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 4:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That’ll teach ya.

In all seriousness, be careful out there.

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by John Beatty on Jun 30, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thx, JB. Was particularly fun on Loxahatchee’s unpaved roads of goodness.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eerily quiet, at least the Montador overpayment is getting plenty of time to sink in…

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 30, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I expect some big news by 6PM Est. Tonight

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bonuses going out early this year? XP

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by panthersfan27 on Jun 30, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s awfully prophetic.

by JDMorris on Jun 30, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hope I’m around to cover it…my brother picked an inopportune day to move apartments. Thunder in the distance, we’re gonna get rained on :(

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 30, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

And that's a bad thing?

Everyone in close proximity of Stamkos when he signs his crazy deal will get rained on!

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever kind of crazy storms youre getting down there have just emerged in No. Colorado. The clouds are not moving in their traditional direction…

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 30, 2011 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe it’s some sort of odd teleportation device like in the terminator… it’s going to suck vokoun up here, and he shall emerge from a ball of electricity in colorado tomorrow around this time..

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d much rather he stayed in FL thank you. I give him a 20% chance of signing with the Avs

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 30, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Naked and in the fetal position?
(time travel in the Terminator universe sucks)

by jimmyh71 on Jun 30, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Atleast it’s warm out this time of year..

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lockouts

well … looks like those ads were right, NBA locked out today … panthers will be the only professional team playing past october!

by stopdropandbreathe on Jun 30, 2011 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah I saw that, will there really not be a season for football or basketball???

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by Chris S Roberts on Jun 30, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like football has more of a chance of playing than basketball presently. Just think of how much anarchy and crime we’ll have now that the NBA and the NFL aren’t playing. Ray Lewis is so smrt.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 30, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hearing rumors that Ian White has been traded… or his rights at least.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

RealKyper Nick Kypreos
#Sabres will soon announce Ehroff deal. Keep in mind he turned down big #Isles offer. It a deal believed to be between 5 -5.5M on aav.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

So it happened at 5:30..

I was close. Technically I said by 6. woo!

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

TEN YEARS.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s a prison sentence, not a hockey contract. This is getting ridiculous.

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by John Beatty on Jun 30, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rocco Grimaldi
If I get to 3,000 friends I’m thinking of doing a Q&A. If I get there ill tell you the time when you can ask your questions

Via Facebook, his personal page.. can be found here.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 5:36 PM EDT reply actions  

OK, just sent friend request

by studyaid on Jun 30, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

he still wasnt my first choice.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember, Crook. I remember.

;)

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coming in to the game late here, so apologies if I've missed any subjects already covered

Ehrhoff: 10 freaking years

Souray: unconditional waivers en route to buyout.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 6:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Montador: 4 yrs with CHI

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

10 years.. and from what I hear its for less money per year than NYI offered him, thats a slap to the face..

Button says on NHL on the FLY that Gagne would best be fit in vancouver.. because they have so much money to spend..

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

At some point you have to feel a little bad for Snow; not only will no one participate in an honest rebuild, but he has to contend with this thoroughly forgettable part of his youth.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do feel bad, I loved grabs but to be honest i feel ok with him having him now..

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s slightly more, but with two huge signing bonuses this year and next. He’s making $18 million of the $40 million over the first two years of the contract.

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by John Beatty on Jun 30, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Stamkos

via Anthony San Fillippo:

BTW: spoke to a #Flyers official who on the condition of anonymity said Meetings went late last night on Stamkos and involved Snider.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 6:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Funny, because other outlets are reporting that Holmgren has said they’re not getting into the RFA market. Hrmm…

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by John Beatty on Jun 30, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea I saw the same. It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

by Ryan Meier on Jun 30, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like a timeline thing. See Donny’s link below. Looks like they considered and then rejected the idea, ending with Holmgren’s announcement.

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by John Beatty on Jun 30, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not without a lot of thought, evidently. Could have been fun.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing Panthers-specific, but a big evening update at Spector.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 6:38 PM EDT reply actions  

guess it’s time to put the bottle down.

by alterego6487 on Jun 30, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

celebrating the NHL’s rise to relevance as the NBA locks out…

by alterego6487 on Jun 30, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have no idea how much joy this brings to my heart. I’ve watched the NBA run roughshod over my teams – and league – for decades.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lockouts and strikes are unfortunately a part of the deal in pro sports. Having lost an entire year (and a half-season ten years earlier) I have no sympathy for anyone involved but the fans and ham-and-eggers who make their living as an adjunct to the clubs (vendors, valets, sales staff, etc.).

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally agree with that, usher at BAC I see every game is the nicest old lady ive ever met, i feel bad lockout years wondering what shes doing then..

Lockout in the NBA however? I say we get together and celebrate that just for the sake of being able to.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

speaking of which… nba lockout is a very good thing for the panthers… the way south florida is, even if people had never been to a game before, from oct until april with nothing else going on more and more people will come out to the arena to catch a game and support the cats, what else are they going to have to do afterall?

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everytime I go out and theres a big game on I ask to have it put on.. within 15-20 min its changed to some basketball game.. So many times I’ve gotten into arguements with people over this.. worst part is its not even a local team most times!

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you drink? I’ve waited tables in South Florida, and unless its a major game or a local team, most places won’t change the tv if they know for a fact you’re watching it. But then again, most places I go, no me and my friends will drop a good amount of cash on alcohol, possibly food, and a 30% tip (unless service is atrocious). In fact, most Duffy’s, Miller’s Ale houses, Bru’s Room are like this. Just don’t try and get an Ohio State game turned off in Bru’s Room on a Saturday during football season. You have a better chance of having two different teams play a game to a sellout crowd at the Horseshoe in Columbus.

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 30, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m usually out mondays with friends and we go to the same place all the time, theres one manager who refuses to put anything we want on, in which case we go to the place next door after tipping our bartender well and apologizing to her for his stupidity and losing her business.

however when the GM of the place is in he puts anything we want on, when others complain he apologizes explains we had asked first and leaves it at that.. we handle the peoples remarks ourselves when they have some comments badmouthing hockey.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL is the manager who refuses to put hockey on, about five foot tall with a shaved head by chance? When I worked at Fort Lauderdale Ale house when it first opened, there was a dude there as manager who refused, REFUSED, to put hockey on, even when the owner of Yuengling brewery wanted to watch the Flyers and Panthers in Philly on tv. He loved to hold grudges with patrons of the bar as well.

Easiest way to shut anyone up when they criticize hockey is, ask them if they’ve ever tried to fight on ice skates. If they say no, tell them you’ll teach them how after you shove a pair up their asses. :)

by MrOmnipotent on Jun 30, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve had plenty of “hockey refusals” over the years down here, but can’t speak for it lately.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh i can, many many stories.. all of which ends in me getting quite loud, my friends typically dragging me out of the place.. and me laughing at the thought that the highly overpaid, overrated “athletes” are prefered over people who have real passion and skill

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Start shaking, Jeff. A lot. Demon be gone!

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

CapGeek.com...

...forever on the cutting edge.

Just fabulous.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

i don't know what's worse

that they’re selling them or that someone’s gonna buy them.

by jimmyh71 on Jun 30, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d buy one simply as a reminder of a goal we once set (the cap floor) and hang it next to the other goal we set.. a future stanley cup champ hat.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s one goal which we’ll unquestionably meet ;)

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know whats scary to think of going into tomorrow...

Detroit has 16 million to spend…

Jovo for 4 mil a yr..

Richards for 7-8 mil a year.. scary

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 7:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Richards might do better than that.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

then whoever offers it is overpaying.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, agreed completely.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you look at his stats..

He has only had two seasons in his career that stand out among the rest..
82gp 23g 68a 91p
80gp 24g 67a 91p

every other season on average looks like…
82gp 25g 45a 70p

numbers Weiss can easily put up.. Why is one valued more than the other?

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Playoff MVP in ’04…getting a lot of mileage out of it.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because Weiss is a softie baby wussy and he sucks. [/sarcasm]

"We don't need the designated goon. Those fights aren't even fun to watch." -Mike Milbury

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by John Beatty on Jun 30, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, well, there is that.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tallon, referring to Brad Richards in particular:

"I don’t think there’s a marquee player out there to tell you the truth,‘’ Tallon said. "The reality is, there’s a lot of good, solid players out there. But there isn’t a star or superstar name.’’

- OFP

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Stand back...

…Mike Kostka has been re-signed.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

A soon-to-be member of the San Antonio Rampage on a 2-way deal. That’s a Kostka.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

kind of crazy a dman scoring 50 points 14 goals is in the minors..

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

More on Stammer/PHI here

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Donny, LBC has been absolutely rocking the past week or two! You’re averaging over 100 comments on almost every post. That’s more than a lot of the big market teams on SB Nation. It’s awesome!

by lipsonjeff on Jun 30, 2011 7:45 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Yea, was just thinking about that actually. It seems that ever since the draft kicked off, we’ve had a huge jump in comments per post than during the season. Interesting.

- Go Panthers -

by flpanther360 on Jun 30, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you, Jeff. Been entirely a team effort.

Good to have have enthusiastic community members to keep it rollin’!

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anytime. Seeing all the excitement and enthusiasm is just more proof showing that everything about the team and organizations is going in the right direction. The fans are getting into it… All this trade talk and UFA fantasies… I’d almost mistake us for Leafs fans!

:P

by lipsonjeff on Jun 30, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

On a similar note, we’ll break 100,000 page views – in a month – for the first time ever in about an hour. Sincere thanks to everyone for being a huge part of that.

Next up: one million (hopefully by training camp).

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

lolololol.

Do you know how many page views Orginal 6 teams and bigger market teams are getting?

by lipsonjeff on Jun 30, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quite a few more, understandably.

Not a competition anyway. Very proud of where we are.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m proud too, just curious that’s all. But I see it only getting better. Along with the team :)

by lipsonjeff on Jun 30, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’re ready…all that’s missing is a few "W"s

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

how do you actually track this, and other pages?

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bottom of the page; Sitemeter. We also have our own in-house analytics which go into much further detail.

Don’t want to dwell on it, but you folks deserve to know the score :)

Moving on…

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Also lots of new members signing up! Hurray!

The unaimed arrow never misses
I miss you already Olesz. What we had was tight. Still pulling for those 85 goals you were going to score under Dineen. Chicago will appreciate them, I'm sure.
Twitterz Marmotz Boudreauz

by Chris S Roberts on Jun 30, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually just went into my NHL game and changed the rosters into my dream roster (thinking realistic). Hearing Campbell, Kopecky, and Cole in a Panther uniform sounds great!

- Go Panthers -

by flpanther360 on Jun 30, 2011 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

2 for 3 so far...

Tallon could get an A on your fantasy list haha

by lipsonjeff on Jun 30, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cole would be a very nice pickup; might even even stick this time around.

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cole would be my dream for our team right now… (realistic one atleast) we need a RW so bad.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t work out too well for EDM, but everyone’s older now ;)

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

id like the idea of him next to weiss and booth better than an unproved dadonov, no matter how good we may think his potential is..

we also need to sign eager for some toughness on our fourth line to stick up for our smaller guys / kids.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can’t wait to see Dadonov unleashed

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

the real question is, if we were to sign cole.. what line would dadonov be on, hard to believe we’d stuff kopecky on the 3rd line making 3 million a yr.. whos he think he is, olesz?

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Top line would be:

Booth Wiess Cole = WIN!

by siddious on Jun 30, 2011 8:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Went over to the leaf SB page..

And for some reason just can not stop cracking up at the very site of..

Burke Claus.. lol Apparently they think he’s going to bring them presents, too bad they only go to the good teams, where as the bad little teams get coal.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

AWWWW…WHAT’S IN THE BOX???

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well..

Let’s ask Spacey..

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thank you :)

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

NHL Hotstove looks at FLA’s draft here

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by Donny Rivette on Jun 30, 2011 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

2G/5A/86PIM in 68 games for Shawinigan (QMJHL)

whered they get THOSE stats from?

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
DET agrees to terms with Jonathan Ericsson. Numbers not confirmed but believed to be three years at around $9.75M total.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jun 30, 2011 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow, whats that cut DET to, 13 million to spend?

The unaimed arrow never misses
I miss you already Olesz. What we had was tight. Still pulling for those 85 goals you were going to score under Dineen. Chicago will appreciate them, I'm sure.
Twitterz Marmotz Boudreauz

by Chris S Roberts on Jun 30, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pittsburgh has 5.6 million to spend on UFA day. Panthers have 38.2 million.

The unaimed arrow never misses
I miss you already Olesz. What we had was tight. Still pulling for those 85 goals you were going to score under Dineen. Chicago will appreciate them, I'm sure.
Twitterz Marmotz Boudreauz

by Chris S Roberts on Jun 30, 2011 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

insane.

The Ghost of David Nemirovsky

by panthersfan27 on Jun 30, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m all set for noon! Got the day off of work, staying home with NHL Network on the tube, twitter feeds going, and LBC Chat. :)

I don’t know what I would do without this site. Thanks for providing such a great place for fans to talk.

Twitter - @sdiaz6215

by Sdiaz6215 on Jul 1, 2011 1:00 AM EDT reply actions  

In Dale we trust!

Is it noon yet :S

by Robert Wright on Jul 1, 2011 7:02 AM EDT reply actions  

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