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Purging of the Old Panthers: Nathan Horton

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Dale Tallon has completed an unprecedented string of player acquisitions this off-season, bringing in seven free agents for the NHL roster and trading for three more. Some additional prospect and minor-league signings brings the potential for over half of this season's Panthers roster to be composed of players new to the team. To accomplish this, Tallon first needed to engage in a sometimes painful process of breaking down the Panthers roster he inherited from former General Managers Randy Sexton and Jacques Martin. This series will look at the players the Panthers let go between Tallon's hire and the end of the 2010-2011 season.

There may be no player Panthers fans are more divided on than Nathan Horton. Horton, drafted third overall in 2003, never quite became the player that was expected. Since 2003, he has only one 30 goal season. The blame has been laid everywhere from the various coaches he played under, to the tutelage of former Panthers captain and linemate Olli Jokinen and to Horton himself being "lazy" and "unmotivated."

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What is sure is that Horton wasn't happy here. His leaving was inevitable following the 2007-2008 season. That year, Jokinen attempted to lead a dressing room revolt against Coach/GM Jacques Martin. Martin lost his job as coach but kept his job as GM. Jokinen's crusade divided the dressing room, with he and Horton on one side and most of the rest of the team on the other. The saga ended with Martin hiring coach Pete DeBoer and then trading Jokinen to Phoenix for Keith Ballard and Nick Boynton. The rest of the team tried to bring Horton back into the fold, but the damage was already done. When Dale Tallon came in as General Manager, he asked every player if they wanted to be a Panther and Horton asked for a trade. He was traded almost immediately to Boston along with Gregory Campbell for Dennis Wideman and two draft picks.

If there are two things any fan hates, it's a player who they think doesn't work hard enough and anyone who asks for a trade. Therefore, many Panthers fans were dismayed by Horton's performance in the playoffs this season. They had trouble reconciling his at times lazy performance with the Cats with his heroics, like his second overtime game winner in the series between the Bruins and Canadiens. The first, in game give, gave the Bruins their first lead of the series. The second sent the Bruins to the Eastern Conference Final.

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This kind of performance is not unprecedented. Horton had his share of highlight reel goals for the Panthers as well, including this shorthanded goal late in the 2009-2010 season.

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Playoffs aside, when one looks at his season in full, nothing really stands out.

 Year Team GP G A Pts +/- PIM Hits BkS PPG PPA SHG SHA GW SOG Pct
 2003-04 FLA 55 14 8 22 -5 57 N/A N/A 6 2 1 0 0 81 .173
 2005-06 FLA 71 28 19 47 8 89 N/A N/A 3 6 0 0 1 162 .173
 2006-07 FLA 82 31 31 62 15 61 N/A N/A 7 6 1 0 3 217 .143
 2007-08 FLA 82 27 35 62 15 85 N/A N/A 9 10 0 0 3 212 .127
 2008-09 FLA 67 22 23 45 -5 48 N/A N/A 5 9 1 0 5 131 .168
 2009-10 FLA 65 20 37 57 -1 42 34 20 7 4 2 0 4 159 .126
 2010-11 BOS 80 26 27 53 29 85 74 14 6 2 0 0 2 188 .138
 Career   502 168 180 348 56 467 108 34 43 39 5 0 18 1150 .146

 

This year, like most of his years in the league, Nathan Horton played over 2/3 of the games in the season, had between 20 and 30 goals, and between 45 and 60 points and scored about 6 power play goals and had 2 or 3 game winners. He had what was an average season for him and then after a couple nervous games in his first outing in the playoffs, really turned it on, scoring two overtime game winners in the series against Montreal and generally playing very well before being concussed in Game 3 of the Final. Horton always showed flashes of being that kind of a player here and there was never any indication that he wouldn't have played as well in his first playoffs as a Panther. The Bruins ended up with the same Nathan Horton that we had here in Florida, which is more than Calgary or Phoenix can say about Jokinen.

As for who "won" the trade, that's still a tough call. The Bruins won the Stanley Cup and both Horton and Campbell played well for them in the playoffs. The Panthers, for their part, replaced the two players with a whole bunch of prospects. The original trade was Horton and Campbell for Wideman and Boston's first-round pick in 2010 and third-round pick in 2011. The first-round pick (#15) was traded to Los Angeles for their first-round pick (#19) and the Flyers' second-round pick (#59). That pick was traded to Minnesota for their third (#69) and fourth-round (#99) picks. Wideman was traded to the Capitals for their third-round pick in 2011 and minor-league forward Jake Hauswirth.

The final list of players the Panthers received from the Horton/Campbell trade is: Nick Bjugstad (2010, #19), Joe Basaraba (2010, #69), Joonas Donskoi (2010, #99), Jonathan Racine (2011, #87), Kyle Rau (2011, #91) and Hauswirth. Ultimately, the trade will have to be judged on the merits of a group of prospects. If two of them develop into top-6 forwards or top-4 defensemen, then the trade worked out well for both sides. In the meantime, Nathan Horton had a nice change of scenery and won the Stanley Cup, which has left a lot of Panthers fans with a bitter taste.

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As for who “won” the trade, that’s still a tough call.

I think Nathan Horton won the trade :)

But as far as Horton becoming the 30+ goal scorer everyone in Boston thought he’d be, that fell through. Horton was the same player from what I heard. He might still have the potential for 30+, but he also has a concussion to come back from. Next year might determine if Boston got the player they traded for.

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I miss you already Olesz. What we had was tight. Still pulling for those 85 goals you were going to score under Dineen. Chicago will appreciate them, I'm sure.
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by Chris S Roberts on Jul 19, 2011 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

He’s a bum that Nathan Horton (attempted in the strongest Bostonian accent possible)

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jul 19, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, he certainly was in FLA, I’m just glad we got plenty of picks out of that deal.

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by Chris S Roberts on Jul 19, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ultimately it was what became Quinton Howden. Happy guy here.

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by Donny Rivette on Jul 19, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nah, the Keith Ballard experience became Howden, but I was okay with both trades, albeit I will not mention the Grabner debacle.

Horton was at least honest that he wanted out and for once Panther management didn’t play the daily crossword and get nothing for him. Good for Horton on the cup, good for the Panthers on getting rid of a guy who didn’t want to be here.

by badger737 on Jul 20, 2011 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Recall how many of us felt in 09-10, when his numbers began to reflect the talent, working alongside virtually nothing in a lost year?

That was a fun few weeks.

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by Donny Rivette on Jul 19, 2011 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

That was a fun few weeks

That feels like a summary of Nathan Horton’s entire career. He’s great for a couple of weeks, and then retreats back into being utterly average. The same thing happened when he started his season with Boston, he went on a tear in the first few weeks of the season and then got lazy again as expected.

by JDMorris on Jul 19, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Precisely my observation, JD. Frustrating as all heck.

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by Donny Rivette on Jul 19, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bought out… signed for league minimum.. divorced losing most money made during the early years.. retires young.. makes appearances here n there for extra cash on the side.

yup.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jul 20, 2011 4:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I look at Horton this way. He was sick of losing. He probably loved Florida and the Fans but didn’t want to wait and see if a rebuilding project might take five years to come to fruition or not, and MAYBE win a Cup. He wanted to win now, as he enters the prime of his career. And seriously, can you fault a player whose biggest desire is to win a Cup? Would he have wanted to do it in Florida? Possibly. But he wanted to do it in the prime of his career, as a pivotal player on the team. Not a Mike Modano type, playing fourth line minutes, lookin for one last shot at glory.

by MrOmnipotent on Jul 20, 2011 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

No, I have nothing against his desire to win the Cup (I hold no ills against Voky either) but good players, teammates and role models need to give their all every night for no matter what team they play for. Nathan didn’t do it in FLA.

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by Chris S Roberts on Jul 20, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just curious, how old are you? Have you ever done something for seven years at one place, only to watch it get worse and worse as time progresses? Most things in your life, if you get sick of it, you can walk away from. He was contractually bonded to show up and be on the ice every night. After so much time, you’re gonna stop caring and your effort is going to show it. He had no other way, besides publicly asking for a trade sooner, to protest things. Being a fan of the sport, you have no idea what its like. Try working a job for seven years, with little to no input in its day to day operations, but watch the management make stupid decisions that look like they don’t care if the business is going under. When you can do that, then you’ll understand his lack of production or effort his last season or two here.

by MrOmnipotent on Jul 20, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m 18 thanks for asking.

Its one thing to be working a 9-5 job day in and day out, but Nathan was being paid a generous sum of 3+ million dollars a season, the least he could do was earn it. Look at the players for Phoenix or Columbus or Atlanta, do they just quit because of circumstance?
Horton was a disease.

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by Chris S Roberts on Jul 20, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, there are players who quit because of circumstance all the time.

by MrOmnipotent on Jul 20, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come to think of it, Patrick Roy quit on the Canadians and demanded a trade the same day. And you’re talking the greatest goalie of his time pouting and quitting on his team.

by MrOmnipotent on Jul 21, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just to surmise that. These guys are human, with the same emotional responses you have. Just because they’re being paid a million dollars to play a game you enjoy watching, doesn’t change what they are. It doesn’t make them into emotionless automatons.

by MrOmnipotent on Jul 20, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t blame him. On the other hand, I have more respect for Weiss for being given the same opportunity and sticking with it. I knew he’d be gone eventually anyway after the whole thing with JM and Olli went down.

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by John Beatty on Jul 20, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

While Cohen, Keenan, and Martin were involved with this franchise, you could put money on the top player on the Panthers goin out the door, starting with Loungo, in successive years. Ownership/management needed a scapegoat and it was gonna be a player always.

by MrOmnipotent on Jul 20, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

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