Florida Panthers "Rights" Trade: Mike Duco to Vancouver for Sergei Shirokov
by Chris S Roberts on Jul 9, 2011 2:50 PM EDT
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PrintIn the second move of the day, the Florida Panthers have sent Mike Duco to Vancouver in exchange for Sergei Shirokov just minutes after trading Kenndal McArdle to Winnipeg. Shirokov has played in 8 games with the Canucks over two seasons, a number that doesn't translate into lack of talent for Shirokov but as a testament to the amazing depth of the Vancouver franchise. Shirokov played in 76 games for the Manitoba Moose last season racking up 58 points (22G/36A) and had ten points in 14 playoff games (7G/3A). Duco scored 31 points (20G/11A) in 67 games with the Rochester Americans.
Update: The Panthers have also acquired Keith Seabrook (Brent Seabrook's brother) from Calgary for Jordan Henry. Stick tap to flpanther360 for the update.
More after the jump.
Unfortunately, Shirokov recently signed a three year deal with CSKA Moscow of the Kontinental Hockey League in Europe, so unless Dale is able to pry him away, he'll simply have to develop in Russia. However, it seems highly unlikely that Tallon would trade away a good, physical player in Mike Duco for the rights of a player he cant even sign. This deal doesn't seem to be complete, especially since Shirokov could challenge Jack Skille or Michal Repik for the 4th line right wing spot.
San Antonio will likely miss Mike Duco, as he was a hard working gritty player who would drop the gloves with anyone. Since Duco was an RFA who never accepted his qualifying deal, negotiations might have gone downhill and Duco asked to be traded. Again, we wish Mike all the best in Vancouver and will hopefully welcome Shirokov to the team.
Shirokov's only NHL goal against an old friend, Craig Anderson
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as I said in the last thread, a good bit of trivia is that Shirokov is the 6th round draft pick in 06 the Cats traded to the Nucks in the Luongo-Bertuzzi deal.
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That’s sick.
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by Donny Rivette on Jul 9, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw that on Twitter too! Another true center… I see a Matthias trade coming any minute now… he deserves a change of scenery and a chance to play better minutes. Because we all know he’s not going to be getting them here. Weiss is #1, Santorelli #2, Marcel Goc #3, Carter #4 …
That trade seems very imminent, I’m getting anxious everytime my twitter account gets 6 new tweets all at once :/
by Chris S Roberts on Jul 9, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean it has to come… the question is, will Tallon make the trade even if he feels like he’s not getting the compensation he wants. What do you think we could get for Matthias at this point? A mid-round draft pick, another underachiever? It’s tough.
Unless Tallon can get what he feels is fair compensation (3rd or 4th) then he’ll probably resign him and let him and Carter fight it out for the 4th spot.
by Chris S Roberts on Jul 9, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
package matthias and garrison together for a pick and prospect.
by Rob PKane McMahon on Jul 9, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
if garrison-weaver means no gudbranson id much rather throw ellerby in with weaver then
by Rob PKane McMahon on Jul 9, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Gudbranson has to prove he’s 100% without a doubt ready for a full time roster spot before we trade anyone away. Not that I dont like Guds, its just that I dont want to make any permanent changes if he cant handle the spot.
by Chris S Roberts on Jul 9, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Panthers twitter
The #FlaPanthers made several moves today, re-signing C Ryan Carter & acquiring C Angelo Esposito, RW Sergei Shirokov & D Keith Seabrook.
The Ghost of David Nemirovsky
A look at Seabrook in Flames camp
-Keith Seabrook will be 23 in less then a month and he was, by far, the worst
defenseman out there. He had no command of the puck, lacked even mediocre skating technique and struggled with his shot.
Food for thought?
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Ouch, thats not good. At least we didn’t give up much for him.
by Chris S Roberts on Jul 9, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
And can I just say that we only ONE forward who is 30+ on our roster right now, and that man is Matt Bradley. The average age of our forwards is 25.7 years old. Boss.
by lipsonjeff on Jul 9, 2011 3:07 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
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Mike Santos on Shirokov’s KHL deal: ’We’ll watch his progress. If we think he can play for us next year, we’ll try and work something out.’ #FlaPanthers
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Nucks have tried to hand Shirokov, like Grabner before, a roster spot the last two seasons, and just didn’t get it done to say he earned it. And unless the Panthers buy his contract in Russia out, he’s staying there for three years.
So we can snag him back to north america by buying out that contract then? There’s plenty of money to do that.
I cant imagine this guy being a career AHLer like Esposito, Sergei just needs a chance.
by Chris S Roberts on Jul 9, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
That money doesn’t count against the cap. And no, there’s not a lot of money to do that. That’s money from the owner’s pocket. Which you are assuming he has endless amounts of. We don’t have Pegula as a billionaire owner. We have a collection of guys, with one being the managing owner. That doesn’t mean they have cash to spend freely.
Also, technically, as far as I know, the team can’t buy the contract, the player has to buy it out. At least that was the deal with the Kulikov contract as I remember it. I’m not entirely sure if that was a general provision of KHL contracts or just that one, but it’s something to keep in mind. But then, I also don’t think the price was that high, either.
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3. Both Leagues must exchange lists of free agents.
COMMENT: The “free agent” is not really defined as both sides treat restricted free agents differently, especially those who file for arbitration. This difference was first brought up a few years ago when Jiri Hudler(notes) signed a contract in the KHL while also filing for arbitration in the NHL. Hudler’s KHL contract was signed before his NHL arbitration hearing. It would be interesting to see how an arbitration decision will affect a player who may fall in the category of a “free agent.” Additionally, the KHL treats its restricted free agents a lot different than the NHL. While the NHL may consider a player a “free agent,” the KHL may still argue that the player is under contract, which was the case of Panthers’ Yevgeni Dadonov. For more on the KHL restricted free agency check out my piece from a couple of years ago.
So this is a different situation from Dadonov, as the belief was Dadonov was a free agent at the time. Ironically, this was brought up today on Yahoo here.
by MrOmnipotent on Jul 10, 2011 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions
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