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"I got along great with the coach, and the [Flyers] organization, and they asked me what I thought I was capable of doing. They told me I'd be in their plans. This was at the year-end meeting. Two months later, I was traded."

- Florida forward Kris Versteeg, via Hyde/Sun-Sentinel

Star-divide

The Eastern Front

Rank

Team

GP

W

L

OT

PTS

GF

GA

Home

Away

L/10

Streak

1

NY Rangers

40

27

9

4

58

118

83

13-3-2

14-6-2

9-1-0

Won 5

2

Boston

39

27

11

1

55

146

76

15-7-1

12-4-0

8-2-0

Won 1

3

Florida

42

21

13

8

50

109

116

11-4-5

10-9-3

4-4-2

Won 1

4

Philadelphia

41

25

12

4

54

139

122

10-6-2

15-6-2

5-4-1

Won 1

5

Ottawa

44

23

15

6

52

140

144

14-8-1

9-7-5

7-1-2

Won 2

6

Toronto

42

22

15

5

49

135

131

12-5-4

10-10-1

6-2-2

Won 4

7

New Jersey

42

23

17

2

48

117

123

11-7-1

12-10-1

5-4-1

Lost 1

8

Pittsburgh

41

21

16

4

46

124

111

11-7-2

10-9-2

4-6-0

Lost 5

9

Winnipeg

42

20

17

5

45

112

124

14-6-1

6-11-4

5-4-1

Lost 1

10

Washington

40

21

17

2

44

118

120

14-5-1

7-12-1

5-4-1

Lost 2

11

Buffalo

42

18

19

5

41

107

123

10-9-5

8-10-0

2-6-2

Lost 1

12

Montreal

42

16

19

7

39

109

117

7-8-6

9-11-1

3-7-0

Lost 1

13

Tampa Bay

41

17

20

4

38

113

141

11-5-1

6-15-3

4-4-2

OT 1

14

NY Islanders

40

15

19

6

36

96

126

9-9-3

6-10-3

5-5-0

Won 1

15

Carolina

44

14

23

7

35

113

148

10-11-3

4-12-4

4-5-1

Lost 2

*

Why last night rocked:

Man...where to begin?

  • BOS over WPG, 5-3; just 5?
  • PHI over CAR, 2-1 (REG); come to think of it, almost rather the Canes took this one
  • VAN over TB, 5-4 (SO); 8 different scorers in regulation
  • STL over MTL, 3-0; Halak stumps Habs in heralded return to Montreal
  • CGY over NJ, 6-3; Mr. One-Line-Team checked in with a minus-2

Why last night jonesed:

  • NYR over PHX, 2-1 (SO)

Flip a coin:

  • TOR over BUF, 2-0
  • OTW over PIT, 5-1
  • NYI over DET, 5-1(!)

Why tonight is a Big Deal in SoFla:

  • PIT at WSH, 7:30 p.m.; Pens are 8-3-1-1 in D.C. since the lockout
  • NJ at EDM, 9; Devils are 10-10-5-0-0 all-time at Rexall/Northlands, though Lou's Crew is 6-1 over last 7

Next up for the Cats:

Friday. At home. Against Pittsburgh. Now is a time of great decision - Are we to stay or up and quit? - There's no avoiding this conclusion - Our town is turning into…the LBC Game Thread, 7 p.m.

Playoff Update:

Did not play, playoff odds up 1.9 to 83.3% (Sports Club Stats)

Did you know:

Tomas Fleischmann is 7-5-12 (with 2 winners) in 15 games vs. the Pens

On the table:

Despite a recent rough stretch, Rampage fans have reason to look ahead to Saturday night...Theo may return soon, but in case the injuries in net don't settle out down the stretch, an option does exist...speaking of goaltenders, good ones are evidently a pretty big wheel down at the cracker factory...our longtime pal FrankD will be stepping aside from editorial duties at PensBurgh; our very best of luck to him - one of the pioneers in SB Nation's hockey network - down the road...just how bad is the situation in Columbus?...Surgery? What surgery? Alien is all smiles.

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Here’s hoping Versteeg stays a Panther for a longggg time.

Also, you forgot Vancouver edged Tampa in overtime. :)

Steve Diaz
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by Sdiaz6215 on Jan 11, 2012 10:35 AM EST reply actions  

D’oh. Thx Steve :)

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by Donny Rivette on Jan 11, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey Kris,

We like you here much better.

Signed,

Panther Fans

by badger737 on Jan 11, 2012 10:58 AM EST reply actions  

SBN Power Rankings (deep breath, people…)

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by Donny Rivette on Jan 11, 2012 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

that seems a bit off. Panthers were 10th in the last TSN power ratings.

by Todd Little on Jan 11, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, not getting the logic in “our” list. Maybe based on last ten games (hence WPG above FLA)? No idea.

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by Donny Rivette on Jan 11, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

left a comment knocking his rankings of the SE teams. I have a hunch this guy is another Sunbelt hater.

by Todd Little on Jan 11, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Zona’s a good dude, been an unbelievable help to us in the past. But I do question these rankings.

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by Donny Rivette on Jan 11, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons.

by Todd Little on Jan 11, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

oh well

no one else bit on the Blazing Saddles reference.

by Todd Little on Jan 11, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll shoot him! I’ll shoot the sheriff!

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jan 11, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry – I was driving most of yesterday and missed this. You’ll be happy to learn I have the Blazing Saddles line pinned up in my office. It’s near this one:

The secret of success is sincerity. Once you can fake that you’ve got it made.
Jean Giraudoux
French diplomat, dramatist, & novelist (1882 – 1944)

by OldDave on Jan 12, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, Zona has been very cool about the southeast. He and I had a lengthy comment discussion about how lively the rec/beer league hockey scene actually can be down here.

Hockey is a business, only we fans love it as a game.

by JDMorris on Jan 11, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Power rankings will usually be based on the most recent trends with a team, so you don’t get things like a team that starts hot and then freefalls still in the top while they’re doing it. At least, I think that’s what they’re supposed to do. Theoretically. In practice, the Panthers were red hot and still never managed to be in a place where I thought they belonged on anything earlier this season, including when they were first in the east for that one blissful day or however long it was.

by angellen on Jan 11, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

most power rankings are based on recent trends but not to the point of being completely off base. Ranking a division leader behind teams chasing them or having a team like the Caps ranked 10th when they have struggled all season and are not even in playoff position and coming off two straight losses is borderline ridiculous.

by Todd Little on Jan 11, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

The Caps being that much higher is ridiculous, but I’d say I’m fine with Winnipeg being ahead of us based on the last ten. Now, the one point in their last four games and then talking about how they’re averaging 1.1 points a game? That’s stupid.

by angellen on Jan 11, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Still…have to question WSH being ranked 8 spots higher than FLA, especially considering the Caps have lost two straight (though the previous four were all wins)

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by Donny Rivette on Jan 11, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

The WSH one cannot be defended, except maybe on the basis of Ovie having five goals in five games and that being a scary sign of things that might be to come. MAYBE.

by angellen on Jan 11, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

thought that too and then they got their hats handed to them in California.

by Todd Little on Jan 11, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Come on, I threw two maybes and a might into that comment. :P And hey, we lost to the Kings, too, and we weren’t even starting Vokie like they were.

by angellen on Jan 11, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

keep the road woes coming for the Caps and the Jets

by Todd Little on Jan 11, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Todd Little: keep the road woes coming for the Caps and the Jets

FTFY

…except when they play the Rangers, Flyers, Boston, or Ottawa.

by Kellner21 on Jan 11, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

+1
yes, woe in general would be much better but both have been tough at home this season.

by Todd Little on Jan 11, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

SBN Mid-season “Awards” (deeper breath, ’specially when you hit the Jack Adams)

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by Donny Rivette on Jan 11, 2012 11:10 AM EST reply actions  

I agree with the choice of Paul MacLean. Not just because I’m a part-time Sens fan, but because I’ve watched that team for nearly a decade and the energy that team brings every night is a complete change from seasons past.

I know you can say the same about Dineen and the Panthers, but everyone expected the Senators (including me) to finish last, and yet even with Craig Anderson’s slow start, they keep winning.

I completely disagree with Dan Bylsma, Claude Noel getting considerations though. Bylsma is overrated and Noel…well I haven’t watched enough Jets games to see if he’s done anything.

by Alexander Calloway on Jan 11, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks like Petey is having fun with goalies again in NJ.

“He makes his own decision on it,” Brodeur said of DeBoer. "Definitely I’m not going to say I deserved it or whatever. He probably felt it worked once in Ottawa and he’d try to do it again. I don’t know his thinking process on that one.

“Especially games like that you have to give me a chance to play. Seven minutes into the game, it’s not over yet. Maybe he tried to spark the team or something. It just didn’t work this time.”

Steve Diaz
Twitter - @sdiaz6215

by Sdiaz6215 on Jan 11, 2012 11:13 AM EST reply actions  

not sure why you are Rocking a Flyers win over Carolina. A team very likely not making the playoffs like the Canes beating a team that is going is a help to the Panthers despite being in the SE.

by Todd Little on Jan 11, 2012 11:17 AM EST reply actions  

That will change beginning tomorrow; came to same conclusion this morning. Lightning, Isles probably fall into that category as well. Good pickup.

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by Donny Rivette on Jan 11, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m all for hating on our division rivals but once they drop out of the race they can be a big help to us.

by Todd Little on Jan 11, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

once they drop out of the race they can be a big help to us

Agreed 100%

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by Donny Rivette on Jan 11, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Kudos to the B’s for coming up with a big third period and beating the Jets. I was a little nervous there for a while.

by Todd Little on Jan 11, 2012 11:45 AM EST reply actions  

Good things to think about

Last night was Winnipeg’s game in hand on the Panthers. both teams have played 42 now.
When the Pens visit it’ll be their third game in four nights.
Boston will be without Marchand when they visit on Monday.

There’s hay to be made here.

by jimmyh71 on Jan 11, 2012 11:51 AM EST reply actions  

Would love a nice winning streak to break open another sizable lead.

Steve Diaz
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by Sdiaz6215 on Jan 11, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

hell yeah! the Pens are pretty beat up. That’s a game the Panthers need to take.
Rooting for them in DC tonight. Hopefully they can eat up one more of Washington’s games in hand and keep them six back.

by Todd Little on Jan 11, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Give them the win in D.C. and they may be a little less hungry when they get to us, too. I never like to meet a team capable of great things when they’re on a losing streak.

by angellen on Jan 11, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

A Pittsburgh win would make the first half of this week very good for the Panthers standings wise.

by Todd Little on Jan 11, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with u angellen

I hereby predict Captain Mike Weaver #43 will score 6G 20A -RCR 0G9A 12/6
Be impeccable with your word, don't take anything personally, don't make assumptions, always do your best...

by RPC on Jan 11, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

just how bad is the situation in Columbus?

good article. Talk about wasting a ton of high draft picks… yikes

by Todd Little on Jan 11, 2012 12:32 PM EST reply actions  

Steve Mason, that’s all.

by Alexander Calloway on Jan 11, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

oh weird.. links up top arent showing up for me. thanks

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jan 11, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

That Titanic-sinking feeling I had after the loss on Friday has gone away. I really like that about this team.

by LadyPuckFan on Jan 11, 2012 12:41 PM EST reply actions  

+1 :-)

I hereby predict Captain Mike Weaver #43 will score 6G 20A -RCR 0G9A 12/6
Be impeccable with your word, don't take anything personally, don't make assumptions, always do your best...

by RPC on Jan 11, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

no need need to panic. despite all the injuries and some poor play the Panthers did manage a winning December, are 1-1-1 in January so far and most importantly are in still in first place.

by Todd Little on Jan 11, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I would say one of the things that I’m most impressed with this season is that they have not let bad things spiral out of control.

by Todd Little on Jan 11, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Fun stat: The Panthers have only once lost two games in a row without getting a least a point. Then Booth became a Canuck.

Steve Diaz
Twitter - @sdiaz6215

by Sdiaz6215 on Jan 11, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Very cool. Let’s hope that hods true for a long time to come.

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by Spencer-IV on Jan 11, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm just throwing this out there

I was really pissed at the way they ran the STH signing event

by studyaid on Jan 11, 2012 1:03 PM EST reply actions  

My first signing event and I thought it was pretty great. Of course I had someone to talk to the whole time so I don’t know. Also helps that I was giddy with excitement.

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by Sdiaz6215 on Jan 11, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

we got cut off from the last section at 6:55 after doing exactly what they told us to do. My son was really looking forward to asking Versteeg about breaking his stick in New Jersey.

by studyaid on Jan 11, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

We got cut from the Weiss section for the same reason- they were stopping all the signings at 7pm BUT that was never stated in the info and apparently they didn’t get started til nearly 6.. For all those Weaver fans- HE was the reason the 2nd section had so long a wait, he was being super chatty. As opposed to Garrison who was shoving everything down the table as fast as possible…

I hereby predict Captain Mike Weaver #43 will score 6G 20A -RCR 0G9A 12/6
Be impeccable with your word, don't take anything personally, don't make assumptions, always do your best...

by RPC on Jan 11, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

And I will add… its classless not to have the 1/2 season holders come to this too. Is it REALLY such a hardship for the Panther players to spend 2.5 hours signing autographs for ALL the people who put up their hard earned dollars to come support the team???

I hereby predict Captain Mike Weaver #43 will score 6G 20A -RCR 0G9A 12/6
Be impeccable with your word, don't take anything personally, don't make assumptions, always do your best...

by RPC on Jan 11, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I heard that some people who had just recently bought a 13 gamer were invited to the event.. and others who had full and half seasons hadnt

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jan 11, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I just found out about it yesterday, but that’s because the person I share the season with didn’t forward the e-mail. If I had found out earlier, I may have showed up earlier and actually got to all sections. It’s amazing what one or two minutes can do sometimes.

by studyaid on Jan 11, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Just watched the vid from the signing.. some people got some weird stuff signed.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jan 11, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

We had them signing a license plate

by studyaid on Jan 11, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I saw some people get an old worn seat cushion.. id probably pass on that if i were a player signing

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jan 11, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

This kid and his father in front of me got their foreheads signed. :/

Steve Diaz
Twitter - @sdiaz6215

by Sdiaz6215 on Jan 11, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

should be a stipulation where it states jerseys sticks pics pucks etc to be signed.. id never touch someone elses face and wouldnt want someone to touch mine..

or some ratty (no pun intended) old seat cushion

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jan 11, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

His face was super greasy. It shone brightly in the BAC lobby lights. Poor Steeg,

Steve Diaz
Twitter - @sdiaz6215

by Sdiaz6215 on Jan 11, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought it was great!

Got thru all 4 stations but it was a tight rush lol, now to get that jersey framed. Weaver was cool but I had the most fun with Bradley talking about the hit from Monday, asked marky if they were putting in a full robotic knee and got a good laugh outta him too.

by Robert Wright on Jan 11, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I had no problem going through all 4 lines as I got there very early and was in front of my first station. It is not unreasonable for the players to sign for an hour but more than that really is not right. I had gone to some of these before and I sort of like another way they did the setup better than this. They had all the players setup around the front. Sort of around where the old Pantherland configuration was. When you got to the first player you just continued on until you saw each player. From first auto to last only took around 15 minutes.

by FL ELKs on Jan 11, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Took me about 45 minutes to get all of the signings. Didn’t have a problem at all. Had the most fun talking with Versteeg for a few minutes. Did anyone notice that Weiss really didn’t look and act all so happy yesterday??? Wonder what that was about…..

- Go Panthers -

by flpanther360 on Jan 11, 2012 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I had the same impression as you. Weiss was not happy last night. Versteeg was great. I really liked Campbell as I thanked him for coming to the team and he thanked me for having him.

by FL ELKs on Jan 11, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, I thanked Versteeg for coming here and said that hopefully he stays here for a long time to come. I told him that I liked him in Chicago and he told me that I better not be following them anymore, haha. I should’ve asked him when he was going to sing again, save that for next time I guess.

I don’t know what was wrong with Weiss. Either he was tired from practice (no excuse since no one else acted like that) or he’s maybe frustrated due to the fact that he’s not scoring or something that was really bugging him. Really thought I was going to meet an outgoing guy, was going to joke with him and ask him when he’s going to get the “C”, but he was just out of it so I didn’t even bother.

Skille was another guy that really made an impression. Very funny guy, for the hardest working player on the team. He was jabbing at Santorelli all night in front of the fans. Very funny guy, for those who didn’t go to the signing by the way, on his card he said that he’s going to be back really soon.

- Go Panthers -

by flpanther360 on Jan 11, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve heard from several people who have met him that Weiss is a) not the most outgoing guy on the team and b) is very uncomfortable in these fan encounters. I have also talked to people who said if you get him at the right time, he can be very funny and personable, but extremely reserved the majority of the time.

I love me some Weiss and am still 100% behind his Captaincy campaign, but it is slightly disappointing knowing he’s not Mr. Personality. Regardless, the dude is allowed to have a bad day and if he was not in a good mood, it’s hard to pretend that all is well. Who knows, maybe he was having lady problems?? Or had a tummy ache?? Or is still upset about missing a tooth?? Speaking of…does he have a tooth during non-hockey situations?? Hmmmm…..

by LadyPuckFan on Jan 11, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

If the suspicions of a nagging injury have any merit that my have been part of the reason. When I met him during the pre-season he was quite personable.

My girlfriend actually asked him about the tooth and he said something to the effect of ‘never during the season but I have a bridge when there’s no hockey’. He was very cool about a question I’m sure he must get all the time.

The artist formerly known as L'Mysterioso

by Spencer-IV on Jan 11, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm…. something must have been on his mind then. I mean, I understand if he’s like that because that’s how I am when I’m around people I don’t know, but I’m not sure. I did hear on the radio the other day that most of the players ARE actually playing with injuries, so that can explain that. Also partially explains the slump that the team is currently in (hopefully exiting).

- Go Panthers -

by flpanther360 on Jan 11, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

He was cool with me

Joked with the kid in front of me and tossed him one of his waters. One one who seemed down to me was Jose

by Robert Wright on Jan 12, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that this is a benefit that would be more of a reward to get a full season ticket than any other lesser plan. Unfortunately some who have less than a full season plan can generally be put on the list by asking your representative.

by FL ELKs on Jan 11, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I did try to have my son ask Goc if he could sign “Count Gocula.” The girl acting as line security got a laugh out of that, but my son wouldn’t ask.

by studyaid on Jan 11, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

OMGoc I love it! There is so much amazing in this.

(He has perhaps the BEST name ever for ridiculous puns. Thanks, Goc!)

by LadyPuckFan on Jan 11, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Works for Versteeg… Maybe the rest of the team could let the hair flow too

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jan 11, 2012 1:12 PM EST reply actions  

Finally! Proof!

That’s why I still have this 1996 hair and a Grizzly Adams beard.

The artist formerly known as L'Mysterioso

by Spencer-IV on Jan 11, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Grizzly Adams… always makes me think of this

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jan 11, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Classic.

The artist formerly known as L'Mysterioso

by Spencer-IV on Jan 11, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

@rinkside
Former #FlaPanthers D, Toronto Marlies bench boss @dallaseakins named to coaching staff for 2012 AHL All-Star Game.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jan 11, 2012 2:04 PM EST reply actions  

I have his game used Panthers jersey in my closet. Might have to find a way to get it signed.

Seeing Red since 1994.

by coasterg on Jan 12, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Awesome video “Our Way of Life”. Not many Panther highlights in it but still amazing none the less.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jan 11, 2012 3:29 PM EST reply actions  

Been making it’s way around the internet for the last few weeks. Everyone deserves to see it. One of the best hockey videos I’ve seen.

- Go Panthers -

by flpanther360 on Jan 11, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

this owns

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jan 11, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Such a joke… if this is in fact the list that is released tomorrow I vote that the “committee” that selects all stars gets dropped soon after.

Snubbing Garrison for Girardi or Kimmo is a joke in itself.. but throwing Evander Kane in there ahead of Versteeg or Fleischmann is a straight insult to them our club and our fans

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jan 11, 2012 3:53 PM EST reply actions  

Rob it’s All-Star voting. Who cares?

Also, nice to see Colin Greening on the rookie roster.

by Alexander Calloway on Jan 11, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

got greening on a fantasy team good pickup.. and considering the ASG is supposed to be enjoyable to watch I would much more enjoy it seeing players who deserve it. granted as stated its a prediction.. if it does infact get released as is tomorrow it’d def signal to have things changed in the future

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jan 11, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Rob it’s All-Star voting. Who cares?

Hockey is a business, only we fans love it as a game.

by JDMorris on Jan 11, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

It matters because it’s part of the whole “recognition” thing and getting this team to be considered contenders rather than just “the same old Panthers”. It’s hard to still have fans of other teams take us seriously when we have one guy in the all star game.

by lipsonjeff on Jan 12, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Eh. If Versteeg and Garrison make it, Winnipeg and Philly fans would say the same thing you just did. Numbers are about even all around. Assuming they want to, or have to, pick one player from every team, Kane’s the only option in WPG and he’s got 18 goals on the year, one more than VerBeauty. Personally I’d like to see Garrison make it just to see how hard that cannon really can fire, but Girardi and Timmonen are top defensemen on the top teams in the league, so you can’t really get too upset about them being chosen.

by kSelvig on Jan 11, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

The cats didnt have a rep at the game for a year or two, so I dont want to see the NHL use the excuse for putting someone in. They never went back and threw in a panther to make things fair.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jan 11, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Except the Jets this season are better than the Panthers in the past two seasons. See any Blue Jackets on the roster?

by Alexander Calloway on Jan 11, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

No its because the Jets are the new kids in town, and that town is in Canada so they get extra exposure.

Seeing Red since 1994.

by coasterg on Jan 12, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Evander Kane has more goals than Versteeg and I know he has more than Flash this year. If the top line wasn’t as cool as it’s been, I’d say they’d be more of a lock, but let’s face it: they’ve cooled off.

On the other hand, Jason Garrison not getting the nod as a defenseman is gross. On the other other hand, they probably don’t want that shot of his in the game itself. Might accidentally chip another guy’s mask.

by angellen on Jan 11, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

On whatever hand I’m up to, Girardi is also having a pretty great year.

Oh, and the analysis at least says that Versteeg barely missed out. But I don’t like that “barely” nonsense. He should be there, by rights.

by angellen on Jan 11, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Players get hurt or decline to join after the rosters are announced, so Garry can still be in the All-Star game.

by Alexander Calloway on Jan 11, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

that’s a mock up by the NHL.com staff not the real deal so let’s not get our panties in a bunch yet. I think Campbell and Versteeg should rep the Panthers but if not no biggie. The extra rest will do our guys good for the stretch run.

by Todd Little on Jan 11, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

the thing thats agitating about it though is that people sat and thought this list actually looked good.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jan 11, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I thing I love about the All-Star is how people be complain about the rosters and when the game is over, how useless the All-Star game is.

by Alexander Calloway on Jan 11, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, my tense was wrong on that, should’ve been “would be gross” rather than “is gross.”

by angellen on Jan 11, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, but leaving Florida out 2 or 3 years ago isn’t quite the same as not having the new Jets represented in their first year back. I don’t think Columbus has a guy in, so I guess it’s not like the MLB after all. But Kane’s got one more than Versteeg and is certainly just as deserving. And I agree, if that top line had kept up the pace they started the first couple months, all 3 could have been there. But with the injuries and teams starting to key in on them, they’ve slowed down.

I’m sure most teams have one or two guys that are probably deserving that didn’t get invited. There’s only so many slots to be filled. And in the end, I’d rather have Versteeg and Garrison get those days off to get ready for the final 2 months of the season anyways.

by kSelvig on Jan 11, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Repping a team simply because it’s their first year back in the league shouldnt be a factor.. it’s like rewarding them for being bad in the past losing their team and then finally gaining one back.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jan 11, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Rob you should also take into account not only is it Winnipeg 1st year back but the game is also taking place in Canada. Kane is a worthy choice if it comes to pass.

by Todd Little on Jan 11, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

So if it were in a US city it would be acceptable to throw kane off the list in place of someone less deserving..

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jan 11, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

who ever said all star game selection was fair?

Yeah, that probably would be the case but an all star in Canada in Winnipeg’s return season is going to more than likely have a Jet playing in it. As long as Campbell is in I’ll be happy any other Panthers will just be gravy.

by Todd Little on Jan 11, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I think what it all comes down to in the end if this is the list thats released is… we can blame ottawa.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jan 11, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Blame Canada!
It seems that everything’s gone wrong
Since Canada came along
Blame Canada!
Blame Canada
They’re not even a real country anyway!

by Todd Little on Jan 11, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah blame the fans for voting in their favorite players. How dare they be biased in any way shape or form.

by Alexander Calloway on Jan 11, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

+1000. You would be stuffing the ballot to if the ASG was in Sunrise.

I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 15G/19A
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by Chris S Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I still don’t see why Kane is so undeserving… but in the end, it’s the All Star game… I get we all want people to give our players some respect, but I’ll happily wait until May and June to earn it than have it “voted on” for a meaningless game I haven’t watched in 10 years.

by kSelvig on Jan 11, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Kane is absolutely deserving. No, his team’s not as high up as we are and yes, they’re crap away from home, but that doesn’t make Kane unworthy — just like it hasn’t, over the years, made any of the Panthers who were lights out on a bad team unworthy even though they weren’t invited.

by angellen on Jan 11, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Point Being – Evander Kane wouldn’t be making no all-star game playing for the Thrashers.

by lipsonjeff on Jan 12, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Guys, the ASG is a total complete joke. Dont sweat it if Versteeg doesn’t make it (does he really deserve to? Wheres Kovalchuk?) or if Garrison makes it (is he suddenly in the top 12 defenseman category?)

So lets say no Panthers make the ASG. Good, give everyone a rest. Have a light practice. Host their own skills comp.

Newsflash! FLA doesnt really have any stars worthy of All Star recognition. We hardly get NHL on the Fly recognition. Thats just how things are right now. In two years when Huby is scoring 40 goals and gets snubbed, be upset. But dont get upset because suddenly ice cold Versteeg doesnt make it.

I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 15G/19A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 4:58 PM EST reply actions  

40 goals for Hubs? Fleischmann hasn’t even reached 20 and you’re moving on?

by Alexander Calloway on Jan 11, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Not moving on, but I’d love to think Huberdeau scores like Stamkos!

I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 15G/19A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn’t Billy suggest the other night that Hubs was going to have a 166 point rookie season? (I believe what he said was that Huberdeau was going to outpoint him in his first season and Mr. Lindsay has 165 points for the franchise, but I could’ve been confused.)

by angellen on Jan 11, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he did, Billy loves self-deprecation.

Hockey is a business, only we fans love it as a game.

by JDMorris on Jan 11, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey no one pick on Flash…

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by RPC on Jan 12, 2012 8:18 AM EST up reply actions  

well put Chris, only Panther that I can say 100% should be in the ASG is Mr. Brian Campbell.

by Todd Little on Jan 11, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

frak the ASG, bring back Rendez-vous ’87

by Todd Little on Jan 11, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, Brian Campbell should go.

I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 15G/19A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

And a Flyers fan I know through a mutual friend just hunted me up on Facebook because he thought that was the actual roster and Versteeg had been snubbed HORRIBLY. So there’s that.

by angellen on Jan 11, 2012 5:19 PM EST reply actions  

Re: All Star Game Roster

Really? This game is not a meritorious honor to players who are doing a great job. I haven’t watched it in ages. Why is anyone here upset that some of the Panthers have not been selected to the game?

Simply put, take the days off, let some guys heal up, get at growing that division lead and making the playoffs once the hooplah is over with.

Hockey is a business, only we fans love it as a game.

by JDMorris on Jan 11, 2012 5:25 PM EST reply actions  

lol All Star Game

I’ll add my two cents and say, bring on the break!

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by panthersfan27 on Jan 11, 2012 6:16 PM EST reply actions  

Only as much as I think kids should get a trophy for just showing up. That is to say, not at all.

I’m with Chris, when we have a legit superstar (at the league level, not just locally) that gets snubbed then we can cry foul. Until then let’s just sit back and enjoy the caricature of a hockey game that is the ASG.

On the other^5 hand, angellen makes a really good point about Garri-bomb: I wouldn’t be surprised if other players were scared of getting hit by one of his shots during an exhibition game.

How cool would it be if the team had an open afternoon practice where they actually held their own skils comp for the real fans?

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by Spencer-IV on Jan 11, 2012 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

In other news...

Am I really rooting for the Pens tonight?

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by Spencer-IV on Jan 11, 2012 7:39 PM EST reply actions  

Yes. Yes you are.

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by Donny Rivette on Jan 11, 2012 8:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

In only the vaguest of Panthers related news...

Gudbranson the Younger, who some have said is on Dale’s RADAR, has gotten himself in a little trouble.

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by Spencer-IV on Jan 11, 2012 7:48 PM EST reply actions  

He got 10??? Jeez even Erik only got an 8 last year.

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by Donny Rivette on Jan 11, 2012 8:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

OHL probably suspends for longer since they aren’t really pros

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jan 12, 2012 8:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Caps up 1-0

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