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"You know, you [used to] go into Florida almost thinking you're going to get two points as a team before. I think now teams coming in know they're gonna have a tougher game than maybe in previous years. The fans definitely have been helping that and coming out and supporting."

- Panthers forward Kris Versteeg, via Yahoo! Puck Daddy/Leahy

Star-divide

The Eastern Front

Rank

Team

GP

W

L

OT

PTS

GF

GA

Home

Away

L10

Stk

1

NY Rangers

54

36

13

5

77

153

110

18-6-2

18-7-3

7-2-1

Won 3

2

Boston

53

34

17

2

70

184

120

18-9-2

16-8-0

5-4-1

Won 1

3

Florida

55

27

17

11

65

141

152

14-5-7

13-12-4

6-3-1

Won 3

4

Philadelphia

56

31

18

7

69

182

169

13-9-5

18-9-2

3-4-3

Lost 2

5

Pittsburgh

56

32

19

5

69

175

148

17-7-2

15-12-3

7-2-1

Won 2

6

New Jersey

55

31

20

4

66

154

155

15-10-3

16-10-1

5-3-2

Lost 1

7

Ottawa

58

28

22

8

64

169

181

15-11-3

13-11-5

2-6-2

OT 1

8

Toronto

56

28

22

6

62

171

166

16-9-4

12-13-2

5-4-1

Lost 3

9

Washington

56

28

23

5

61

156

160

19-8-2

9-15-3

3-4-3

Lost 2

10

Winnipeg

57

26

25

6

58

139

161

16-8-2

10-17-4

4-5-1

Lost 1

11

Montreal

57

23

25

9

55

152

154

11-12-7

12-13-2

6-4-0

Lost 1

12

Tampa Bay

55

24

25

6

54

155

185

15-8-2

9-17-4

6-2-2

Lost 1

13

NY Islanders

55

23

24

8

54

131

159

12-13-5

11-11-3

5-3-2

Lost 1

14

Buffalo

55

24

25

6

54

136

158

13-10-6

11-15-0

5-4-1

Lost 1

15

Carolina

57

21

25

11

53

147

175

14-12-3

7-13-8

5-1-4

Won 1

*

Why last night rocked:

  • SJ over WSH, 5-3; just another day on the farm for Sharks in D.C., now 16-1 vs Caps since '99. Panthers retain game in hand
  • CAR over MTL, 5-3; Eric Staal: 4G/2A/+6 in last three games

Why last night jonesed:

  • Graced we are by a third joneless day

Panthers Playoff Update:

Why tonight is a Big Deal in SoFla:

Teams FLA (65P) needs to lose in bold...

  • NJ (66P) at BUF, 7 p.m.; Devils: 8-3-2 in Buffalo since lockout
  • OTW (64P) at TB, 7; Sens have won first two games, combined score of 8-3 (both in Ottawa)
  • NYI at WPG (58P), 8:30; Isles defeated Jets with SO victory at Winnipeg, December 20
  • TOR (62P) at CGY, 9; after losing previous four, Leafs beat Flames 3-2 (REG) in October

Next up for the Cats:

  • Hosting Ottawa tomorrow; LBC Game Thread opens at 7

Did you know:

  • Senators have won eight straight vs Florida in both locations, outscoring the Cats 32-16

Monday’s Organizational Transactions:

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liking those playoff odds

115 days until Prometheus

by Todd Little on Feb 14, 2012 11:29 AM EST reply actions  

Hot-dang look at the playoff odds!

Hockey is a business, only we fans love it as a game.

by JDMorris on Feb 14, 2012 11:34 AM EST reply actions  

SCS hasn’t updated since yesterday so I did the math myself #GoldStarForMe #WasToldThere’dBeNoMath

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

The last couple of games for the Cats and Caps means that now the Panthers have about a 50% shot at top of the division if they go .500 in points the rest of the way, and because of the way the 5-10 teams are bunched up, they still have about a 40% shot at one of the bottom playoff spots if Washington comes back. But they need more like .550-.600 to hit the same mark now. It’s crunch time for the Panthers, but even more so for the Capitals.

"Shut up, Pierre!" -Everyone

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by John Beatty on Feb 14, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Nash is available

As McKenzie states: “the deadline just got a whole lot more interesting.”

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 11:37 AM EST reply actions  

I was just about to post this

by studyaid on Feb 14, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

but he is fully in the drivers seat, and if he doesn’t want to move, he doesn’t

by studyaid on Feb 14, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

And it’s very unlikely the Panthers are in his list of qualified teams…

by Ryan Meier on Feb 14, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

just like you thought with Soupy….. right?

by alterego6487 on Feb 14, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

But we don’t have another Olesz, or a sucker in Bowman to take him if we did.

Hockey is a business, only we fans love it as a game.

by JDMorris on Feb 14, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Lotsa prospects and a first-round pick as well as some deadwood to fill the gap

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Nope, never thought that with Campbell. In fact I thought the opposite because of his relationship with Tallon.

by Ryan Meier on Feb 14, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

well, read the comments, his only choice is obviously, and should be Toronto

by studyaid on Feb 14, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I love the comments on TSN. It’s like visiting the zoo.

by jimmyh71 on Feb 14, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL! Yessir!

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

FLA has to look like a paradise compared to the situation he’s currently in

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

We can speculate, even if it might not (probably won’t) happen. Who could we afford to give up to get him?

by studyaid on Feb 14, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

a first rounder, second rounder, howden, santorelli, robak.

i love howden, im going to love robak, but id give them up in a heartbeat without hesitation for rick nash… id give up anyone sans marky/huberdeau for rick nash.

by stopdropandbreathe on Feb 14, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

like Todd said in the other post - no doubt Tallon has gathered all these draft picks in order to possibly trade some prospects….

i think your proposed deal is a little too much though…

by alterego6487 on Feb 14, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

a little too much? youre talking about a franchise player who has scored 40 goals, a first round, a top tier prospect, a top AHL D and a roster dump is possibly too little! thats just my opinion though.

by stopdropandbreathe on Feb 14, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

well i meant too much for us to give up… but i agree, it might be what’s needed.

by alterego6487 on Feb 14, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

A first, a roster player, and a top prospect not named Huberdeau; remember FLA would be taking on an ENORMOUS salary and cap hit until 2018

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

if that’s what it takes, do it. give them the first (finally not a lottery pick hopefully). give them Howden. give them Santo.

by alterego6487 on Feb 14, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Santorelli is just a throw-in to fatten the deal; really of no consequence

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Clemmer too maybe? columbus does need goalie help lol

by alterego6487 on Feb 14, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I would make 100% sure Markstrom’s knees are good before trading away Clemmer. Maybe now that he’s back in SA we can see.

by studyaid on Feb 14, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

absolutely no point in trading Clem even if we lose him for nothing in the offseason. leave Marky in SA the rest of the year and let him develop more. Clem and Theo will be battery for the rest of the reg. season and playoffs.

115 days until Prometheus

by Todd Little on Feb 14, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but so does FLA…ready to anoint Markstrom?

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

fair point… not until i see marky is healthy.

by alterego6487 on Feb 14, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it might be steep too. Considering if he is traded, he has the pick of where to go. The GM is not necessarily in the greatest position. I would say maybe take Howden out of the mix.

by studyaid on Feb 14, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know about that. Except for the Panthers finally getting pointed in the right direction (at least at the game 55 point) this year you are talking about two teams in non-traditional markets with a long stretch of losing in their respective histories. Depends on how he looks at the Panthers I suppose. Is he looking at the seemingly bright future with Tallon at the helm (like Campbell did) or the Panthers who have been just as woeful as the Jackets on and off the ice the last decade?

115 days until Prometheus

by Todd Little on Feb 14, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

the above post was in reference to Donny’s post abot FLA looking like a paradise. coming in late to this as I was out for lunch.

115 days until Prometheus

by Todd Little on Feb 14, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Read the article guys…Nash obviously gave his blessing

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

the guy seems to fit the Blueprint perfectly…. size, skill, character….

but i’m not getting my hopes up…

by alterego6487 on Feb 14, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Tallon’s rep goes a long way into making this possible. Add the fact that we’re contending AND building at the same time, no cap space issues and could a package together that would work with Columbus. Here’s hoping.

Seeing Red since 1994.

by coasterg on Feb 14, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

it's not likely but it's concievable

Agreed. I think Tallon’s presence and results to date are really good draws. Most other teams he might want to play on would have to give up current pieces in order to fit him under the cap, so that enters his calculations.

Also no state income tax here. Ohio’s current state income tax is $9,280.77 + 5.925% of excess over $204,200. His paycheck just went up a lot just by changing addresses.

Finally, it’s February. Ask his wife where she wants him traded to: Detroit or Florida?

by jimmyh71 on Feb 14, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Plus he reportedly appreciates playing in a lower-visibility market (i.e. he can go about his life when not playing)

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

The state income tax factor has been proven to have no influence on the decisions these players make. People said the same about Luongo and countless others through the history of the Panthers and Lightning.

by MrOmnipotent on Feb 14, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

There’s no way to prove it has no influence. They’re not going to come out and say it. It won’t be the deciding factor, but it is there.

by jimmyh71 on Feb 14, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

He’ll move. He’s said he won’t ask for a trade, but he’s open to a request from the team. At this point, one has to think he’ll go to most contenders. Apparently the Rangers are quite interested.

"Shut up, Pierre!" -Everyone

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by John Beatty on Feb 14, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

The Rangers would have to be contortionists in order to get him in though.

Seeing Red since 1994.

by coasterg on Feb 14, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

WSH has to be of major consideration for him, as he played under Hunter and alongside Wideman in London, and the Caps will have the room once Semin/Knuble/Halpern are off the books next season

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Wideman would have to be re-signed, of course

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

And if, by some miracle, this happens I’d be buying my Nash Panthers home jersey the same day.

Seeing Red since 1994.

by coasterg on Feb 14, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

You’d be getting into a LONG line :)

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Yormark’s gotta know that…. and pushing it on dale? no?

by alterego6487 on Feb 14, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t think Dale needs any motivation here

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed. can’t keep talking about this. i’m getting too excited lol.

by alterego6487 on Feb 14, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

It is pretty cool

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Nash-Weiss-Steeg/Flash?

a PP of Weiss-Steeg-Flash, Goc-Nash-Sammyu

by alterego6487 on Feb 14, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

There is no doubt that we have the parts to get this done. I didn’t post this but a while back there was a Blue Jackets scout seated in the seat directly below me. He was taking notes in great detail on all our players as the game went on.

You would have to think that the Blue Jackets knew this was coming but prolonged it as long as possible.

by FL ELKs on Feb 14, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

As to that Ottawa streak, streaks like that were made to be broken!

Seeing Red since 1994.

by coasterg on Feb 14, 2012 11:45 AM EST reply actions  

Like the LA Kings streak that was broken

A lil thunder and a lil lightning is what the Cats are going to bring this year.

by trinidaddy on Feb 14, 2012 1:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Foster

a week ago he was on the bench collecting NHL salary, today he is in Cinci… man, what a ride.

by stopdropandbreathe on Feb 14, 2012 11:54 AM EST reply actions  

Still been a breakout season with tons of exposure; would think he’s having a ball

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

and he has the best save % in the NHL

by studyaid on Feb 14, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

#HiddenGem ;)

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Nash is the complete package....

There is NO other player in the NHL today that I would rather have playing for the Panthers. Period !

by LAUSMAN on Feb 14, 2012 12:05 PM EST reply actions  

Oh yeah. Add Giroux into the mix

I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 18G/24A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Feb 14, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Nash would fit in well here from the Panthers side of things. He can score goals without having to a have a center who is an elite passer.

115 days until Prometheus

by Todd Little on Feb 14, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh Man I’d take Giroux in a heart beat!

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by RPC on Feb 14, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

SJ over WSH

Happy my team could rock for you guys last night. :)

GO SHARKS!
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by Angy on Feb 14, 2012 1:11 PM EST reply actions  

That was awesome… Ovi got pummeled

by parallelcircle on Feb 15, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Still doubt Nash is going anywhere, this is the same deal as the Ryan offers, it has to be such a huge return no (non completely desperate) team would do it

I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 18G/24A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Feb 14, 2012 1:16 PM EST reply actions  

If true this must mean there is absolutely no interest in Jeff Carter or simply that Nash has had enough of losing in Columbus. Anyone think LA might be the destination? They have a young goalie (Quick or Bernier) plus some other assets they could give back.

115 days until Prometheus

by Todd Little on Feb 14, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

As long as Brian Burke sits in Toronto, don’t say no team…

by badger737 on Feb 14, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

From the just incredible department

Tiger Woods has committed to playing in the Honda Classic in Palm Beach Gardens next month. The last time he played there was 1993 as an amateur.

What’s next? The Florida Panthers make the playoffs this year.

by Bill Jempty on Feb 14, 2012 1:24 PM EST reply actions  

It has been a little chilly here in Hades lately…

by badger737 on Feb 14, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I see Washington making the move if there is one to be made. They may be in a bit of panic mode right now and may be willing to work a package that may include first rounders (notice the plural), roster player and perhaps Holtby

A lil thunder and a lil lightning is what the Cats are going to bring this year.

by trinidaddy on Feb 14, 2012 1:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Holtby is their future, they’ll part with Vokoun if he isnt interested in resigning

I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 18G/24A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Feb 14, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think Vokoun is worth much. Columbus isn’t likely to make the playoffs and Vokie’s a UFA in July.
Washington does have two first rounders (one is from Colorado, IIRC)

by jimmyh71 on Feb 14, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Columbus can't make the playoffs

Maybe it is still mathematically possible, but when’s the last time 90 pts was good enough for 8th in a conference? That is the maxmum for the team who has 38 points now and 26 games left on the season.

by Bill Jempty on Feb 14, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

i was just being lazy – i didn’t want to have to look at the standings page. ;) No way does 90 points do it out West.

by jimmyh71 on Feb 14, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe it is still mathematically possible, but when’s the last time 90 pts was good enough for 8th in a conference?

2009-2010 in the Eastern Conference. 2008-2009 in the Western Conference.

The chances against them even making it to 80 right now, though, are not good.

"Shut up, Pierre!" -Everyone

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by John Beatty on Feb 14, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

70

isn’t very likely. They’d have to get 32 out of a potential 52 points to make it.

Come to think of it, the way CBJ is plying 60 points might be tough for them.

by Bill Jempty on Feb 14, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

they’ll be lucky to break 60

115 days until Prometheus

by Todd Little on Feb 14, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Not as long as they think they have a shot at the playoffs, they won’t.

"Shut up, Pierre!" -Everyone

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by John Beatty on Feb 14, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Can’t see CBJ having any interest in Voukon.

115 days until Prometheus

by Todd Little on Feb 14, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Why

Vokie is still a top tier keeper

by Robert Wright on Feb 14, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

But a UFA at the end of the year

A lil thunder and a lil lightning is what the Cats are going to bring this year.

by trinidaddy on Feb 14, 2012 2:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Vokoun is an unrestricted free agent in July and Columbus isn’t making the playoffs this season. Why bother getting a top tier goalie when he’s going to play a few months’s worth of meaningless games and you’re just going to lose him? He’s not going to want to stay in Columbus and come 12:01AM on July 1 his new agent will be listening carefully.

by jimmyh71 on Feb 14, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

And coming to Florida

and asking if the June 2011 offer was still good?

Maybe in some star trek alternate universe……..

by Bill Jempty on Feb 14, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

not only is he a UFA he is at the tail end of his career not what CBJ is looking for imho.

115 days until Prometheus

by Todd Little on Feb 14, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly. They’re going to want a young guy under contract for a few years if they’re trading for a goaltender.

"Shut up, Pierre!" -Everyone

Litter Box Cats - Your Panthers Colossus.

by John Beatty on Feb 14, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Just smile and nod..
I hate to break it to you jets fans, flyers fans, habs fans and all the other 28 teams in the league that are not going to be in on this deal. The boy comes from Brampton and by birth he bleeds blue and white. You better believe that if he is traded, Toronto is his #1 destination. We’ve got the cap space and the best trading GM in the league! Cheers hockey fans

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 2:32 PM EST reply actions  

btw..

apparently leaf fans cant count..

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

sorry, his math was correct, but that still doesn’t excuse him.

by studyaid on Feb 14, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

i was referring to the fact that he claimed there were only 28 teams..

and all the other 28 teams

but even so 28 + jets flyers habs = 31

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s so advanced he’s in the future and has counted the two new expansion teams in Hamilton and Quebec.

by jimmyh71 on Feb 14, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

oh $#!7, my bad, I’m as dumb as a leaf’s fan.

by studyaid on Feb 14, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

You all misread what was said. He listed a few of the total 28 teams that won’t be in on the trade, as it’ll only be Columbus and Toronto in on the deal. 30 teams minus the HIs team and Nash’s team equals 28 other teams in the league not in on this deal.

by MrOmnipotent on Feb 14, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

But its still a crock of sh** mentality.

by MrOmnipotent on Feb 14, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if this guy does birthday parties since he can read minds…

by antb7 on Feb 14, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

It won’t happen but bring him to Winnipeg do we can get some scoring and hopefully push for 1st in the division.

lol only thing he’s right on here is that it wont happen

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

@KatieStrangESPN
#NYR Reports: Rangers interested in Nash - ESPN NY -

And so it begins..

Please dont send him to NYR.. I actually like him and want to keep it that way :(

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 2:42 PM EST reply actions  

The Rangers are good enough without Nash. Stay away Slats!

115 days until Prometheus

by Todd Little on Feb 14, 2012 2:45 PM EST reply actions  

the rangers are 12th in scoring with 2.78 blah blah blah and “could use” the scoring going into the playoffs..

NOT when your goalie has a -3.50 gaa! seems like with the way he’s playing this year teams are penalized goals to start games.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

using Capgeek...

The Rangers have 1.5M in cap space remaining. They’d have to free up 6.2M to take Nash, but the fat targets are players Columbus might not want in return. I think CBJ is going to want a prospect/pick-heavy package.

There are only 11 teams (the Panthers are one of them) that can trade for Nash without any cap problems. All other teams will have to shuffle deck chairs a bit. The actual money would be a problem for the cats, but not the cap.

by jimmyh71 on Feb 14, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

pretty sure the caps hits by the time the deadline rolls around is different then what’s listed on capgeek.. Nash may only have a cap hit of like 2-3mil by that time in which case all they need to do is bury yet another player in the ahl like theyre notorious for.

Like I said I dont want it to happen, but it could. and next season theyll have some people off the books to make more room

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Talk has been Dubinsky and Wolski in some sort of package, that I have seen, with one of the young defensemen.

by MrOmnipotent on Feb 14, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

if youre talking about Katie she’s actually really good. She covers the NY area teams and is usually spot on. It’s not really out there to think the Rangers are contenders in a big trade but its sickening to think it’s gonna happen again. It’s not even like they have any good assets.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

If I was Slats I would not risk meddling with that team to acquire Nash. They are so close right now (as much as it pains me to say it)

115 days until Prometheus

by Todd Little on Feb 14, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

sorry just saw the link, phone was acting up

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t even like Hooters and I know that the original is not in Channelside.

The Ghost of David Nemirovsky

by panthersfan27 on Feb 14, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Today's Palm Beach

had a Hooters coupon stuck to the front page. Buy 10 wings get 10 wings free. Sure bring your valentine to Hooters.

by Bill Jempty on Feb 14, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Oops

Today’s Palm Beach Post. Why do I need to pay for a newspaper that runs half page ads on the front page of the local section? It’s getting to be like paying for Golf magazines that are 80% advertising

by Bill Jempty on Feb 14, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

You’d be amazed at how many girls I see goin to Hooters in Boca, and not goin with guys. And I don’t mean employees either.

by MrOmnipotent on Feb 14, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha..
I love a good laugh during the day. Yes, excluding the amazing guys who contribute here, ANYONE posting on the net can claim to be a writer Dave. I even saw a typo from an MMA article about a kid going to compete for a title. He wants to be a Sioux Chef in the future. I nearly died laughing. I didn’t know that you had to be Native American to work in a kitchen these days.

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by RPC on Feb 14, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe he wants to live in a teepee, not be a cook?

by MrOmnipotent on Feb 14, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Whoever left the comment as Rusty Shackleford wins my KOTH weekly award.

I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 18G/24A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Feb 14, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Crazy how Foster goes from NHL to ECHL that quick

by Colt1235 on Feb 14, 2012 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

not really, only was here due to the injury situation. Grumet-Morris and Markie will eat up the playing time in San Antonio while Foster goes to Cincy to do his thing. full time AHL next year for Foster.

115 days until Prometheus

by Todd Little on Feb 14, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Wile guess of the day: Nash to the Blues. The Blues have the cap space without losing anyone, they are poised for a run, and they have a hot goalie prospect (Ben Bishop) that they have no room for. If CBJ gets Bishop and plays him enough this season, he’s an RFA and they can keep his rights. Of course the Blues would have to throw picks/prospects/players in but it seems more do-able than Nash to NYR / PHY / TOR / VAN.

by jimmyh71 on Feb 14, 2012 4:16 PM EST reply actions  

I’m going to guess Nash goes to L.A. if it happens at the deadline.

My feeling is he won’t get moved until this summer.

115 days until Prometheus

by Todd Little on Feb 14, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Bernier and stoll would be in some form of package if they want to land nash, stoll will be an UFA but can chip in 20 goals. maybe throw in williams to shed some more cash as well as a 1st.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I see Columbus being in a position to get a little better than that. I don’t think they would be interested in taking back UFA’s who would likely have no interest in resigning unless it was to free up space for their trading partner but why should they be so accommodating especially in what looks to be pretty quiet year for potential deadline deals.. They need to use Nash to get better. I think the asking price is going to be two players who are under contract past this season who can play and be good in Columbus right away and onwards as well as a #1 pick and a prospect.

115 days until Prometheus

by Todd Little on Feb 14, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

IN the Jackets from of mind, right now they might be willing to eat cap space to get rid of Carter, but for Nash they’re gonna want a bounty of rewards to end the relationship.

by MrOmnipotent on Feb 14, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

No way no how he gets traded within the division, regardless of the return. Then again, this is Columbus…

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

agree with Donny on this. No way Columbus wants to see that much of Nash after they trade him.

115 days until Prometheus

by Todd Little on Feb 14, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Thinking LA (package inc. Quick or Bernier) or Vancouver (package including Schneider) or the Rangers. If they were real smart (and real lucky) they’d force the team getting Nash to take Mason.

115 days until Prometheus

by Todd Little on Feb 14, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

NHLPA...

…is taking a fan poll here, via Kukla

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 4:44 PM EST reply actions  

Question >Which Canadian city deserves a franchise – Quebec City, Hamilton, or a 2nd in Toronto?

I entered None of the above.

by jimmyh71 on Feb 14, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I said Gander. Good airport.

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the Newfoundland props Donny!

As an aside, the Gander airport is actually an alternate runway for the Space Shuttle, and Newfoundland has all 4 of Canada’s alternate runways for the Shuttle landing.

by BullyBeef on Feb 14, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Presumably they’ll be ripping them up soon seeing as we have no manned spaceflight program for the first time since 1981.

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Russians landing in Canada? I’d be more worried about that than the USA invading. Years back, there was a Facebook page of Canadians who believed the US would invade by 2010. L O Freakin L.

by MrOmnipotent on Feb 14, 2012 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

We should gift those fields to China, since they’ll be needing alternates in no time. That and we owe them.

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

They are probably not our’s to “gift” as we’re payin a pretty penny for them.

by MrOmnipotent on Feb 14, 2012 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I know, I know…

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Giving a launching pad to either Russia or China, two natural resource hungry countries with an increased interest in military spending, wouldn’t be a good suggestion.

by MrOmnipotent on Feb 14, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

It was sarcasm…I know the score too.

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

not too too bad

115 days until Prometheus

by Todd Little on Feb 14, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Before the deadline…

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats a bit of a relief

by Sycamore on Feb 14, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats nothing, we’ll hardly know hes gone

I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 18G/24A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Feb 14, 2012 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha
NASH WAS TRADED TO THE THRASHERS! #EklundRumor

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 5:54 PM EST reply actions  

isn’t that an E5?

by studyaid on Feb 14, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Eklund not having a good day. Or maybe he is, depending upon his desires (re: hits)

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Todays a slow day.. (I hate Tuesdays)

So i’ve randomly thought up a trade scenario that could help a few teams out and I’m sure will get a lot of fire..

Columbus receives:
Alex Salak
Mike Santorelli
Keaton Ellerby
Michael Frolik
Floridas 2012 1st round pick.

Chicago receives:
James Wisniewski
Shawn Matthias

Florida recieves:
Rick Nash

Columbus would receive assets that will help them build a good young core as well as potential goals to make up for the loss of Nash and a 1st rounder that any big name player should command in a trade. Along with the great skilled young goalie they desperately need.

Chicago gets a good puck moving defenseman they’ve been lacking (yes I know he was with Chicago once before) granted he’s having a not so great season, the same can be said for the rest of Columbus. They also get a decent young centerman they badly need as they lack any type of depth at center.

Florida finally gets it’s finisher that can help in those big one goal games and potentially lead to fewer games that end up going to OT or shootout. with Nash in our lineup easily take away 5 of those OTL and we’d be at 70 points tied with Boston.

flash – weiss – nash
kopecky – goc – steeger
begenheim – madden – sammy
bradley – matsumoto – skille

yeah I through matsumoto in there for fun lol, skille can always switch to center on that line and throw barch on the wing

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 6:21 PM EST reply actions  

of course theres always upshall too..

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol, CBJ gets rid of Nash and Wisniewski , and get a bunch of crap back in return? Salak is far from a sure thing like Bernier/Schneider, whom CBJ can easily fetch for nash. Santorelli in just a body to fill space, Frolik is a bust, and has a ceiling of 20 goals, and a 1st is a 1st. So for all of that, they lose a 30-40 goal scorer and a great D man?

And how would CHI get matthias too if all they are giving up is Salak and Frolik??

by Colt1235 on Feb 14, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

sorry I forgot Ellerby, but they overall get a potential 2nd pairing D man while they lose a first pairing young D man, get a 15-25 goal scorer and a 10-20 goal scorer and lose a 30-40 goal scorer, and get a B goalie prospect and a mid-to late 1st round pick to make up for the difference?

I know you can do better than this Rob :)

by Colt1235 on Feb 14, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually forgot to change this up, I meant to throw in a prospect instead of santorelli, such as drew shore or possibly howden.

as i stated last night, theres a reason tallon drafted 23 guys in 2 yrs and its not to hold on to each and every one of them.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

that would be much different!

by Colt1235 on Feb 14, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Columbus is getting nothing but marginal players and #1 pick in your scenario. Would be great for us here in FL but I don’t see that package of players making Columbus much better.

115 days until Prometheus

by Todd Little on Feb 14, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I am not willing to give up Matthias. Granted, I have a tendency to feel irrational connections to the name on the back of the jersey just as much, if not more, than the front of the jersey. After all, I am the girl that bought Center Ice the night Booth was traded so I can watch him in Vancouver…although I still refuse to believe my love for him was, or still is, irrational. But I cannot part with Matthias, or Ellerby for that matter. However, I can get behind a trade with Santorelli, Madden, or Upshall. But leave my Danger alone!

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by LadyPuckFan on Feb 14, 2012 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

if every GM went by this nobody would ever get traded.. sign elsewhere.. and no ‘bad’ club would ever improve until the clubs that are good have players die off of old age and they start the draft process all over again.. sorry but i dont want my club to be bad for 20 years just because someone has a connection to a player and isnt willing to see him go elsewhere if it means their team getting better..

For example, I LOVE versteeg.. would i trade him if it meant we get a damn good player that will play great for our team for years helping us be a contender? I’d do it twice.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

This is why I’m not a GM. I, admittedly, cannot separate emotions from business. Every player I have loved has been traded, and every time it feels like a punch in the gut. I am not meant to have any business with the business side of this business.

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by LadyPuckFan on Feb 14, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

So what’s the word on you and the business side of hockey?

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I admit it, I do have a Nash T-Shirt from NHL.com

I would be happy if Florida trades for him. He represents everything that the ownership and marketing were looking for. They must be working those phones right now. Panthers obtain A name recognition player to fill seats. Got to think that Tallon has a green light on this one. My bet on cost is Mr. Petrovic, first and second rounder for Nash. Which is the equivalent of 2 first rounders plus a low second rounder. This is a doable and good deal for jackets. A big dman with two draft picks. Panthers get what they wanted since day one. I worry about the cap space if too much for ownership but they should go for it. Enough assets I pull this deal off , just need to convince Nash.

Other likely destinations for Mr. Nash are Philly and Hawks.

PS too much attitude already in DC for the caps to pull it off.

by Hawkseye on Feb 14, 2012 6:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

LA over Philly.. and I dont see it happening for the Hawks, they need a dman

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Money a problem too for the hawks. They need another salary dump to shore up the blue line with some more d.

by Hawkseye on Feb 14, 2012 8:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Get real guys, Howson doesnt want trash in return for a franchise player.

Hows this sound? Florida’s 1st in 2012 and 1st in 2013, plus Matthias.
Dont like it? Neither will Tallon. Its a pipe dream.

I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 18G/24A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Feb 14, 2012 7:28 PM EST reply actions  

what i really dislike is that so many people are so clingy with our prospects.. its not like we’ve only taken 7 guys this past year and need to cling to them because its all we have. things have changed and everyone else needs to too.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

and apparently now im hearing suter from nashville would be a perfect fit on florida because we need a defensive guy because everyone we have is an offensive dman.. o_O

last i checked suter was more offensive of a dman then anyone else on our club other then soupy..

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

who made this rumor lol

by Colt1235 on Feb 14, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s not a rumor its what im told we need more so than nash..
because offense of course has never been an issue for the panthers..

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, replace the 2012 1st with Huberdeau and take back Matthias. Better?

The point is, no one here is going to like what we have to give up for Nash. Thats the asking price, not a package.

And we’re probably clingy with our prospects since this is the first time we’ve ever had legit ones.

I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 18G/24A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Feb 14, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

there are other prospects other than huberdeau.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Howson wouldnt want Drew Shore or Alex Petrovic, the two names are Huberdeau or Bjugstad. Unless you want to keep Clemmensen and part ways with Markstrom.

I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 18G/24A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Feb 14, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Petrovic, Ellerby, or Robak would have to go in any deal with Columbus. They need some defenseman.

Supposedly the kings and toronto are high on Nash’s list.

by Hawkseye on Feb 14, 2012 8:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

dont listen to leaf fans

their high on everyones list, even someone whos never set foot in toronto

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Now we’re looking at 2012 1st, Ellerby/Robak/Petrovic, Fleischmann…the more you lowball in one area, the more it costs in another.

CBJ has Clitsome, Savard, Moore, Johnson as defense depth, they could use another guy but arent in dire need of one.

I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 18G/24A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Feb 14, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

This is what he might want, but no team is going to give up a package like that. Stars are always traded for less then they are actually worth.

by Colt1235 on Feb 14, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

trade for
Mike Richards: LAs top prospect Brayden Schenn and a promising 23 year old,20 goal type in Wayne Simmonds, plus a second rounder.

Jeff Carter: A lottery 1st round pick which turns out to be Sean Couturier, a little less promising but still young 22 year old Jakub Voracek, and a third round pick. And a decade of salary off the books.

That was Jeff Carter and Mike Richards, two locker room disease players on a stacked team more with ample offense to replace the loss with. We’re talking about a the captain of a team that has never been relevant, and won’t be relevant even with Nash and Carter on the top line. Its not working for them.

If Howson really wants to trade away his franchise player, he’ll be admitting defeat on all the things he tried to do to help his team this offseason, alienate the paltry fan base and have to commit to completely rebuilding his team. Trading Nash is the last thing he wants to do, and the only thing he will accept is an overpayment, since other teams are so eager to Nash off his hands.

Think second coming of the Kessel trade.

I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 18G/24A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Feb 14, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

With the position he is in, I dont think he is going to ream any team like the B’s GM did to Burke. The bruins didnt have to trade Kessel, he was extremely young. Nash is a completely different situation

by Colt1235 on Feb 14, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Same situation. If Howson proves (for once) he isnt an idiot, he can rail another GM eager and stupid enough to bite. Which is why I find it perplexing that Leafs fans want Nash so much, considering they dont have the depth to make up for another big trade and Burke is far from being the ‘best trading GM’ they make him out to be.

I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 18G/24A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Feb 14, 2012 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Water was muddied well before the Kessel deal

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Columbus will be looking for youngish NHL roster players who can come in and play. Something like Bernier, Jack Johnson and a #1 from the Kings or a similar package with Schneider as the centerpiece from Vancouver. Trading Nash for a package of picks would be a bad idea for Columbus especially if you are dealing with a good team and will not be getting lottery picks back. My feeling is they are going to want to be as certain as possible in the return and not want all picks or a group of prospects who may or may not make it.

115 days until Prometheus

by Todd Little on Feb 15, 2012 8:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I see no reason he wouldnt want either of those prospects…. them two with a 1st and a 2nd wouldnt be farfetched at all

by Colt1235 on Feb 14, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Only ones I care about are Huberdeau/Markstrom/Bjugstad. (We need him at center!!!)

I would love to see Shore dealt… as well as Petrovic after two good years… with Robak and Ellerby, we really dont need Petrovic

by Colt1235 on Feb 14, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Certain that Petrovic doesn’t have the better upside? I have no idea, hence my not yet being asked to scout. Professionally.

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

From reports it seemed like he was as good as Guds in camp. I’d love to have him in place when Jovo calls it a career.

I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 18G/24A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Feb 14, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Both big guys. Might be early to categorize either one yet.

Petrovic is the more physical, while Robak has a penchant – in juniors and the AHL, so far – for offense.

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Being the only two true quality defensive prospects, I’d hold on to both. Robak will be a cheap injury replacement/call-up as guys like Jovo and Weaver more on with their lives, and Petrovic can take his place in San Antone.

by MrOmnipotent on Feb 14, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Ita not about being clingy to prospects. Its more the fact the Panthers have any with true NHL potential. Most panther prospects have third liner ceilings.

by MrOmnipotent on Feb 14, 2012 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Which is better than most NHL clubs have in the cabinet.

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

There are a couple clubs with more high end quality prospects than the Panthers currently.

by MrOmnipotent on Feb 14, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

thats only because edmonton gets the 1st overall pick year after year, and potentially again this year.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Its not only Edmonton.

by MrOmnipotent on Feb 14, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Which club has a better selection to choose from over huberdeau howden bjugstad shore petrovic markstrom etc?

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d say OTT, but thats it.

I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 18G/24A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Feb 14, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

LA is considered a pretty deep talent pool.

by MrOmnipotent on Feb 14, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

is that why hockey’s future ranked them 5th while florida was 4 whole spots ahead of them?

Islanders apparently have better prospects than them.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Read again why Florida is ranked first. Its the depth of prospects. Most aren’t envisioned to ever see NHL ice, and that includes Grimaldi with his 8.0 D ranking. D as in

D – Unlikely to reach potential, could drop 3 ratings – a player who has a chance to reach his potential but is unlikely to do so. The potential rating is multiplied by 70 percent for depth chart purposes, indicating that the player’s potential is extremely fluid.

by MrOmnipotent on Feb 14, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

The system is laden with future NHLers at forward and defense, and boasts multiple skilled and physical players throughout. Weaknesses: With such a deep and well-balanced prospect pool, there are no salient weaknesses to be found

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Weakness: two guys likely to become 1st line players and hopefully a starting goalie. After that, who knows.

I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 18G/24A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Feb 14, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Theyre talkin role players, third liners in most of that depth. Not top end talent. As I originally said.

by MrOmnipotent on Feb 14, 2012 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

You people really need to layoff the HF rankings. They’re not they holy grail of prospects. More often than not, they’re the equivalent to Eklund and his rumors.

by MrOmnipotent on Feb 14, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions  

kay I’ll stop reading people who do it for a living and come to you for any future information

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldnt go that far, since it still is a good source. However it should be used as a supplement to other sources out there to judge the potential of a player.

I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 18G/24A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Feb 14, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

HF ranking for Huberdeau is 10th.
Hockey Prospectus has him at 3rd.

HF on Markstrom 19
HP, Not Ranked.

Bjugstad isnt ranked on HF, hes 12th on HP

Neither is a perfect list, nor should it be treated as the go-to.

I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 18G/24A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Feb 14, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

That may be, but overall who can match the depth in every position but goal?

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Brian Fogarty @Brian_Fogarty

#Flapanthers prospect John McFarland to have shoulder surgery. Done for the season

I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 18G/24A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Feb 14, 2012 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

That sucks. Having a good year.

by Colt1235 on Feb 14, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta stop trading the guy; he was a risky pick to begin with.

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

traded in juniors once already, about a month or two ago. He might have been traded before that too, but I cant remember that clearly.

I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 18G/24A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Feb 14, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

On his third team in less than two years (Sudbury, Saginaw, Ottawa)

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

More success stories out of young NHL guys being moved multiple times than dudes in junior leagues

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

OT: Center Ice on preview this week ...

… at least on Comcast, Center Ice is on free preview at the moment. If this was mentioned earlier/elsewhere my apologies – but I thought this might be welcome news to some.

by OldDave on Feb 14, 2012 9:45 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions   1 recs

YOU DA MAN!!!

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Off to Winnipeg! Jets and Isles tied at 1

Litter Box Cats - Your tarp-free Florida Panthers Colossus

by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

And from CGY: Flames over Leafs 2-1

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

hoping the cats game is on tomorrow via the in house feed.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Every appendage I have is crossed

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

@OnFrozenPond
Word is blacked out in SoFla @RobMc82: @FlaPanthers any word on if the in house feed will be available on center ice tomorrow?

wtf do i pay the extra cash for then? the team owes it to its fans

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Tell it to NBC

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

what is it they have to do with our home teams in arena feed?

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Panthers can do the feed thing if they wish; been done before.

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

They “own” the 7:30 slot on various nights throughout the year; this is one of those.

It’s only a playoff spot we’re dealing with here…

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

check center ice right now for tomorrow night… see that? ott @ fl. apparently ottawa picked the game up so hopefully we can watch their feed.

usually im able to in these situations

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Word is that it’s blacked out in SoFla on Center Ice. No, I have no idea why that may be, since, ya know, you paid for it.

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

it used to be that way up until midway through last season and then they suddenly started showing the away teams feeds.. been happening so far this season.

if not ill just go the way of mr chris roberts

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Issue here is there is no “away feed”, since neither team is broadcasting video.

In-house or bust.

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

did u check on center ice? it shows a feed there

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Check Sens’ website…audio only

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Think they’d mention the availability of an important game…

Litter Box Cats - Your tarp-free Florida Panthers Colossus

by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

The backwoods way.

I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 18G/24A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
Find me on Twidduh And look at my Marmots

by Chris S Roberts on Feb 14, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Shall I dig out the splicing gear?

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll meet you behind the shack at half past

I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 18G/24A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
Find me on Twidduh And look at my Marmots

by Chris S Roberts on Feb 14, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Ever see the movie “Used Cars”? If not, do it NOW.

Litter Box Cats - Your tarp-free Florida Panthers Colossus

by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I read the wiki page. Seems to be up my alley.

I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 18G/24A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
Find me on Twidduh And look at my Marmots

by Chris S Roberts on Feb 14, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Has to be seen to be believed. Totally off the wall. Do it.

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

The sick part of this is there are a lot of LBC community members in northern Palm Beach, Indian River, St. Lucie and Martin counties who now have to find other things to focus their attention on…and it ain’t gonna be the Broons/Habs on NBC-SP. If they even receive it.

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll find an illegal stream, just for you Donny.

by MrOmnipotent on Feb 15, 2012 3:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Rather strange, since activating an entire broadcast team of producers, on-air talent, sound peeps, et al – plus equipment – on a moment’s notice might be cost-prohibitive, especially for a game in South Florida. Unless we’re not being given the full story… ;)

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

What scores better among the intelligentsia in SoFla: BOS/MTL or OTW/FLA battling for postseason positioning? Yes, I know.

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

not working for me, maybe it’s US only?

by eliran2 on Feb 14, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Likely :(

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

What happened with the rangers? apparently lundqvist is trending world wide.

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 9:51 PM EST reply actions  

They pretty much proved why theyre the best team in the league, in a shutout no less.

I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 18G/24A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
Find me on Twidduh And look at my Marmots

by Chris S Roberts on Feb 14, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

No argument. Broons got worked.

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by Donny Rivette on Feb 14, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

@OnFrozenPond
#FlaPanthers Scoreboard Update: #Isles get empty net goal, lead #nhlJets 3-1 in final minute

by Rob PKane McMahon on Feb 14, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

for the game tomorrow night

saveology.com ice plex has Bellevu express satellite, a canadian satellite. they should be able to get the ottawa feed of the game no problem, for anyone looking to watch this!

by stopdropandbreathe on Feb 15, 2012 12:16 AM EST reply actions  

Ottawa isn’t sending a broadcast team supposedly. Meaning, there isn’t a Ottawa feed for the people in Ottawa.

by MrOmnipotent on Feb 15, 2012 3:52 AM EST up reply actions  

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