Offense goes dry as Capitals rout Panthers 4-0
Given the fact that A) first place in the Southeast Division and B) just a measly playoff berth were both on the line tonight at Verizon Center, one wouldn't expect the game winning goal to be scored 13 seconds into the game. Nor would you expect a Florida Panthers team still quite alive in the playoff hunt to play the remaining 59:47 as if they had already packed up and headed home. That would be the case though, despite everyone up and down the Florida roster acknowledging how important the outcome of this game against the Capitals would be during this crucial stretch of games, they played the game as if they were in a different league. A 4-0 loss can be interpreted in many ways, but usually not as a blowout. However without any signs of life to praise, there is no way to dance around that designation.
The interesting note in all of this carnage is that it's only the second time the Panthers have dropped two consecutive games in regulation all year. Until recently, the justification for believing the Panthers were a playoff team relied on their penchant for gaining points in almost every game, but as the L column fills up that positive is slipping away. There still remain 30 games on the schedule, but only 9 until the season is essentially decided at the trade deadline. The Panthers once-firm grip on the postseason is simply no more as the whole year hangs by a thread; one more mistake and the walls come crashing down. A victory tonight could have solidified the Cats' standing, but a blowout makes the ground substantially softer and far more uncertain.
Note: We're debuting a new format for game recaps, starting tonight. Bear with us as we work out the kinks!- Find a more rosy recap at Japer's Rink and a Panthers outlook at SBN Tampa Bay
Scoring Summary:
1st:
-Mathieu Perreault(9) assists to Jason Chimera and Alexander Semin 00:13
-Alex Ovechkin(21) PPG assists to Dennis Wideman and Marcus Johansson 09:21
2nd:
-Jason Chimera(15) SHG assists to John Carlson and Matt Hendricks 01:01
-Ovechkin(22) unassisted 11:47
Observations:
- So, you thought we were done with giving up early goals, right? Well giving up a goal just 13 seconds in is probably as bad as its going to get, meaning nowhere to go but up, right?
- The silver lining to the injuries to Ed Jovanovski and Dmitry Kulikov is that rookie Erik Gudbranson is getting prime ice-time with Campbell to learn the ropes. His +/- aside, Guds has been doing all the right things despite being partnered with a guy not entirely known for his defensive play. Erik is well on his way to becoming a solid NHLer, plus he already has a mean streak going on.
- The Capitals hadn't scored a powerplay goal in seven games before tonight. Lovely.
- Though some wonder why the Capitals traded away a first round pick for Troy Brouwer, he's proved himself to be incredibly valuable and a perfect fit into the Washington organization. The guy is well on his way to score a career high 24 goals while sitting 8th in the league in hits. This is exactly the kind of trade a smart GM will make.
- While we're on the topic of Capitals praise, what an amazing season Chimera is having. 15 goals in fifty some games for a guy on the lower lines getting PK time, something no one ever expected. Also, Matt Hendricks is totally awesome, but enough of that, we're supposed to be rivals.
- The shorthanded goal by the Capitals pretty much sums up the Panthers over the last 2 months. When the shorthanded team has a 3-on-2 and both defenders lose track of the puck, there's a problem. Not to mention one Capital was left to fend off 3 Panthers in the neutral zone; that's not aggressive penalty killing as much as it is terrible backchecking.
- "Don't forget to buy your playoff tickets in bulk!" --Michael Yormark during the first intermission.
- Scott Clemmensen has been far from great in the last two games, but with horrid defense and no help from his forwards I laugh at the "When is Theodore coming back?" questions being thrown out after every goal. There are bigger problems than goaltending to tackle at this point.
- I'm still standing by the whole lack of leadership thing as the explanation as to why we suck. Just a hunch when your team has no direction.
- Back when I played hockey, every coach I ever had told me not to "run around like chicken with your head cut off", not that I was guilty of doing that, but just as advice when things aren't going well. That was my most basic lesson in 6 seasons of hockey, yet the Panthers are doing just that lately. If we aren't going to make the playoffs, at least make the rest of the season something that can be built upon next year. That means get back to the basics.
- Florida sure has been playing various forms of the "trap" lately. Maybe because it's incredibly easy to shut down the Panthers forwards when they're in a hole. That's not the sign of a playoff team.
- Give Washington credit, at least they got up for this game that may just decide the fate of the Southeast Division.
- So Billy Lindsay gets burned after piling it on Ovechkin. Tsk tsk, you knew that was coming.
- Tomas Vokoun had a 42 save shutout, which sounds impressive if you didn't watch the game. If you did, you know he didn't have to work terribly hard for it.
Chris' First Star: Keaton Ellerby, went even in +/- and got roughed up all game, but he's a trooper.
Chris' Worst Star: Lots of qualifiers, but I'll go with Kris Versteeg(and the rest of the top line) for a completely invisible game. Also a nod to Clemmensen, though I still don't think he should bear the burden of the loss.
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Sorry Harvey, but you’re dead wrong on this:
Fan asks:what does florida need to do to turn the season around
Harvey’s Answer: defenseman (jovo) and center who could score Matthias, Madden and Santorelli are allergic to red lights
What really ticked me off is when he brought Danger into the conversation. Matty is one of the more hardworking players on the team and has been having the best season of his very short career. That is just wrong to include him in that group of forwards.
Harvey, I don’t know what you have been doing lately, but snap out of it.
- Go Panthers -
He might be really hard working, but a center who could score would be really nice. He looks like he has all the skill in the world, size to boot, nice hands, but the points just aren’t there for whatever reason. He has 3 points in 2012 (13 games).
I don’t think there’s any question scoring is an issue, and having 3 ineffective but hard working lines just isn’t going to cut it (gee, where have I heard that before? sounds like circa 2004-2011 again…)
Santorelli doesnt deserve it either. The guy is a 20 goal scorer in a sophomore slump. Its just not his season.
Harveys just naming names in whats a general problem:a lack of scoring.
I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 17G/21A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Feb 7, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
You can’t just give guys a pass because they work really hard or had success before or seem like good guys. If you don’t produce (as the majority of this team hasn’t) than it’s an issue.
Eh I still don’t think he should be among this group, also since he’s young and he’s supposed to be a 3rd/4th line center, as Goc should be. There’s other places to look. Guys are playing roles that they shouldn’t be playing on another team. I keep on telling everyone to just enjoy the season as it goes. None of us really expected us to challenge for 1st Place at the beginning of the season. Our big scorer will come next year in Huberdeau, potentially along with Howden/anyone else and Markstrom. Next year is when the fun will begin.
- Go Panthers -
by flpanther360 on Feb 7, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
Thats why I dont want to go for broke to make a statement this season. Sure playoffs would be fun, but next year is when the expectations go into full swing
I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 17G/21A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Feb 7, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Yes its an issue, but its one that wont change overnight. Give Santorelli another season to turn it around. If Matty doesnt score when we have a deep roster maybe he can find a home as 4th line center. Its all about working with what we have, even if they arent living up to potential.
And for the record, I assume everyone on the roster is a hard working, nice guy.
I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 17G/21A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Feb 7, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
I’m with you on this. As much as I really, really, really want to make the playoffs, I don’t want to sacrifice anything serious we have growing in the system. I still think this team can be a playoff team, especially with the division being the way it is, the schedule we have left, and Ott\Tor not exactly pulling away (yet). Guys just have to step up, and so far no one has.
In my opinion, Caps are just too good to take first-place from. I say we win it next year, but I’ll go out and say that we’ll make it in the 7th or 8th spot, replacing Toronto or Ottowa. I still don’t believe in those two teams and that they can keep it up in the long run.
- Go Panthers -
by flpanther360 on Feb 7, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
You can’t just give guys a pass because they work really hard or had success before or seem like good guys
There is so much truth in this.
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by Donny Rivette on Feb 7, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
Only thing is if Santo really is in a sophmore slump or if he just overachieved in his first season. Guess we really don’t have a choice, he better play strong next year, because he really will be playing for his job.
- Go Panthers -
by flpanther360 on Feb 7, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Give him another year to prove himself. If it was just a fluke, so be it. What did he cost us, a 4th rounder?
I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 17G/21A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Feb 7, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
Well if we’re looking for positives, Ottawa is sucking a little worse than we are lately, going 0-6-1 in their last 7, 2-7-1 in their last 10 and losing tonight as well. Tampa also lost, and we can hope the Toronto vs Winnipeg game just avoids OT , although I think I’m hoping towards a WPG win. Toronto is more of a threat to me to beat us for the 8th seed than Winnipeg is.
As for the game…. rear view mirror it and move on. As much as I would have liked to see just some sort of push back, don’t give up the division lead without a fight kind of thing regardless of the score, it didn’t happen. Winnable games coming up, still just 1 point behind WAS, 2 points behind 8th seed. Can’t dwell on this one and let it have an effect on the games vs the Kings, Islanders, Senators…
even though we haven’t been great at all lately we’re still very much in the playoff mix and the only reason for that is that other teams in the east not called the rangers,bruins, flyers and penguins have all been unimpressive. NJ i think is a lock so that gives us three spots we can fight for, including the division lead which is still very achievable. Let’s keep this in mind and maintain perspective and take advantage of the fact that ottawa, toronto and washington have been far from great and that teams like buffalo, tampa and montreal really haven’t competed this season. This season is luckily very playoff achievable for the panthers, just need to regain form
Same problem over and over again, natural born scorer. Hopefully that will soon change cuz their game is boring to watch. I don’t even think that bringing those kids in next season will have that great impact as most of us expect so. Do we have to wait 3 more years to see another coach get fired, then see him doing well the following season coaching a more talented team?
by Mircseszku on Feb 7, 2012 10:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I think Dineen stays. He’s done a fantastic job so far, and doesn’t stare up at the sky like DeBoer did with us. Dineen has lots of flare and is very competitive, and the players really like him and love playing for him. DeBoer doing good this season with the Devils was expected because, as you said, they have a somewhat more talented team with the best goaltender in the world. Doesn’t make DeBoer such a good coach.
- Go Panthers -
by flpanther360 on Feb 7, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
Absolutely Dineen stays; few here will debate that.
He wasn’t given “his own” lineup – that which represented the style of play he wished to employ, gained by acquiring the best of what was available on the free agent market – to start the season (how could he have been, as the club was spending simply to get to the Cap Floor).
Hard to fault Tallon or anyone else in the organization for traveling that route – remember: he needed to spend spend spend. Not everyone was going to work out, whether by performance or time on the IR.
Tallon provided a solid cross-section of skill & grit (and unfortunately a propensity for injury) in a long feeling-out process which this season’s ultimate outcome will provide a far better barometer for what is needed, what must be shed, and how the club’s prospects fit into the puzzle.
Still…tonight was a major jones.
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by Donny Rivette on Feb 7, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
To clarify: Dineen continues to feel his way through a first year as an NHL coach; some strategies will work, others won’t, regardless of personnel. Still terribly early in the grand scheme.
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by Donny Rivette on Feb 7, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
+1
Early in the grand scheme yes. But also too early to write this chapter off yet. So many pivotal games still to go. Plenty of opportunity to rise…or fall. With the early deadline, will be interesting to see if Dale will want to buy or sell.
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by chesterbardo on Feb 8, 2012 9:54 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Keep the faith
One loss isn’t a season. Trust me. I can tell you this as a Caps fan. This was the best, full game, I’ve seen them play this year. They never, repeat NEVER, score first. And they did, 13 seconds in no less. Dale had these guys ready to play. This game meant a lot to them. Even Brooks laich, who should be “out” for a few games laced ’em up and played a full game. I think this game was reallt more for the Caps than against the Cats.
The Panthers have a wonderful season going and shouldn’t let this one blip destroy their or they fans’ psyche. They need to not even look at the tape of this game until Feb 16.
Stop talking playoffs or trades or next year. Focus on the Kings AT HOME this Thursday. get pumped up. Get a sellout crowd. Get a big win at home. Here is a west coast team in the middle of a long road trip. Beat them to hell. It’s an advantage you must use. The Cats can do it. Play like the Caps did tonight.
And guess what? If the Panthers continue good play, you have the Capitals at home on February 17. At that time, they’ll need to take it personally. Get mad and give ‘em everything you got. The next three games before the panthers see the Caps playing the Rangers and the Sharks. Of course don’t look ahead, but there is a possiblity the Caps go into Florida after this one 1-2, even 0-3 if they lose to the Jets. Then the momentum would be for a possible first place Panthers.
So, Keep the Faith
Well that Uber-stank. It is at least the 4th time a goal has been scored on us in the 1st shot under the 1st minute mark of the game. I’m almost positive all 4 cases I’m thinking of Clemmer was in net. Not saying it doesn’t happen to Jose, just saying. When we start the game like that, the team that rallied to come back and beat the Devils, has not been showing up. Since I am a tad superstitious, the whole Playoff ticket purchase guaranteed thing is doing me in. Last time MY guaranteed anything- I ended up with 4 seats at a 2 seat STP. You know Tweet land had to be full of us fans bashing our team or changing the channel when MY feels the need to comment
Cats fans, we will be ok. Continue to #believered.
My only personal consolation is that the Flyer lost again (4 in a row?) to the NYI in SO.. :)
I hereby predict Captain Mike Weaver #43 will score 6G 20A -RCR 0G10A 1/17
Be impeccable with your word, don't take anything personally, don't make assumptions, always do your best...
Flyers have serious problems right now.
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by Donny Rivette on Feb 8, 2012 7:46 AM EST up reply actions
Indeed and I’m enjoying it
I hereby predict Captain Mike Weaver #43 will score 6G 20A -RCR 0G10A 1/17
Be impeccable with your word, don't take anything personally, don't make assumptions, always do your best...
by RPC on Feb 8, 2012 7:58 AM EST up reply actions
that’s what happens when you #saystuffontwitter you have to squish it in!
I hereby predict Captain Mike Weaver #43 will score 6G 20A -RCR 0G10A 1/17
Be impeccable with your word, don't take anything personally, don't make assumptions, always do your best...
by RPC on Feb 8, 2012 8:20 AM EST up reply actions
That was a pathetic effort but provided a very realistic barometer of where we are at now. We caught a few teams early in the season but then our players started getting hurt and we have been just hanging on ever since. We need to roll four lines of our good, not great players to be effective. The overall pressure that puts on the opposition allows us to get our three goals and that will get us past a lot of inferior teams, and make us competitive with the better teams. But without Upshall and Sturm coming back, our fourth line can’t generate any chances and we have trouble scoring against good teams. We need two more second line ability players to be play-off bound (there’s no way we can get a first liner, we don’t have enough to offer). Any idea about waiting till next year shouldn’t resonate with a team that has already set record for playoff-less futility. The Madden idea was a good try but is yielding little. Barch isn’t an NHLer, and Kennedy just barely. Weiss isn’t a first line center. Jovo was past his prime and had no recovery speed- we are actually better off without him. We do miss Dmitri though.The other players are pretty good, better than we used to have as we have upgraded. But let reality sink in and open up the wallets and get this long suffering but loyal fan-base a chance to experience playoff hockey.
The problems of this team go much further than the absence of Sturm and Upshall. In fact, they probably make little to no difference due to the amount of playing time they have missed previously. The team’s problem is its loaded with too many career third liners who aren’t living up even to that role, possibly because they’re having second line roles forced on them due to injuries and lack of depth, thus playing against the oppositions more talented lines.
As for opening the wallets, that doesn’t necessarily help either. Too many teams open their wallets and put themselves into a bind and the player they spend on usually under performs. Instances like Richards in New York are few and far between in comparison.
Panthers really need to ride this season out. If come the trade deadline, the injury situation doesn’t get better and the team as a whole doesn’t start scoring more goals, they should start to look to sell off the UFA’s and any RFA’s they have no desire to resign. The prospect pool has the same problem the team has presently. Little top end talent and loads of third/fourth liners. They need to stock up on more top end talent.
Agreed. Move the expiring assets for something to help next season. Don’t give up, play hard the rest of the year, and there’s no reason this team can’t get in the playoffs. We’ve all seen what they can do when they play hard. But still plan for the future. Remember Tallon’s stated goal: a Cup, not just the playoffs.
^ agree with a lot of this.
If the Panthers can make a smart trade for a second liner at the deadline to help this season go for it if not wait until the off season to make bigger moves. For next season the team still needs what it has needed for years imo: a first line center, a big physical winger who can score over 25 goals along with Markstrom staying healthy and taking the #1 job. Hubs should be able to come in and add some more offensive from the wing (don’t see him as a center in the NHL at least not at first). Trading for multiple second and third line guys doesn’t solve the problem of this team. Bringing a couple of top line guys would bump everyone down to the role they should be playing (i.e. Weiss as 2nd line center)
121 days until Prometheus
I agree with not giving up and pretty much everything said by Mr. Omni, Ryan, and Todd, except any thoughts of waiting till next year. We have waited long enough. We are very close. The seventh and eigth seed positions are still very attainable. We have some nice assets. We got Skille for Frolik last year.- surely we can get something in a package with Repik, or Bradley ( I meant Bradley- not Kennedy in my earlier post- I get them mixed up), and a prospect, or draft choices. There are a few teams that will trade. If we are a team full of second and third line players, lets at least get two more, send down Barch and Bradley, release Madden, and at least roll four lines of decent players. If we do, we’ve got a shot. I think the time is now.
This team isn’t close. Its marginal at best, and honestly. I’d rather see them get another high pick than do a one and done in the playoffs. In and out playoff appearances suck, when you remember otherwise. And the level of competition will probably shut this team down and dominate it, like Jersey last did. That had to be one of the most demoralizing series I have ever watched closely.
right it’s not a good team yet. no sense in making a bunch of trades in desperation. If you can make one or two smart moves without giving up much at the deadline then do it and re-tool the team in the off season to fix the major problems. A little tinkering or just letting the team go forward as is may mean a playoff appearance without giving up prime assets for the future.
120 days until Prometheus
And then, next year when everyone is healthy, we can trade off some of our glut of third-liners, like Santorelli, Skille, or Upshall, and one of our goalies, and acquire a first line center and maybe a wing. Then, if the youngsters can develop, we will be talking Stanley Cup.
Upshall is far from a 3rd liner. If Versteeg hadnt stepped up and Uppy been injured, Upshall would be on the first line
I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 17G/21A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Feb 8, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
Depends on which Upshall shows up, the one who scores 20 goals or the one who gets traded every year
I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 17G/21A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Feb 8, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Most 20 goal scorers are usually second liners, not top line players. And Scottie Upshall has never scored 20 goals, mostly because he can’t stay healthy.
He scored 22 last year
I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 17G/21A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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by Chris S Roberts on Feb 8, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
My bad, I dind’t put the split season together, but still. That makes him a marginal 20 goal scorer that’s only been achieved once in his career. He’s still far from being a top line player. He a complimentary player. Not a feature. He’s a second liner or below.
On another team yes, but not on this one. I’m totally in agreement that the roster depth leaves much to be desired and that Upshall would be a 2nd liner on any other team, but not with Florida, especially if Versteeg hadnt proven himself. We’re still years away from having 3 real 1st line players, but Upshall is probably the best player on our roster that isnt named Flash Weiss or Versteeg.
I’m putting here for reflection later on in the season…. #14 Tomas [Fleischmann] is getting a 40G season. FLASH COUNT: 17G/21A
by RPC on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT
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